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Title: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on May 25, 2014, 16:04:50 PM
The guys from Game Sack have just posted a video that looks at games that share the same name but that are different types of games.  Have a look...

https://youtu.be/fKgBn0bfPoM
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: Bobinator on May 25, 2014, 17:37:29 PM
I haven't gotten around to watching this just yet, I'll post my thoughts when I do so, but...

Real talk? Being serious here? I will fight anybody who says the Genesis/MD version of Aladdin is better than the SNES version. Oh, I mean, it's pretty, sure. It's beautiful. There's absolutely no denying that. But you can have your prettiness, oh yes. And I'll be sitting here playing games that have little things like collision detection and invicibility time that lasts longer than a nanosecond and bonus levels that aren't completely worthless.

Italics.

...OK, fine, it's not that bad, I just thought the Genesis/MD version always felt really... floaty, and kind of slippery, in terms of controls. Could be a nostalgia thing on my end, I dunno.

All right, I've taken a look. I'd mostly agree with them, except that I think they're a bit too harsh on the SNES version of Aladdin and the Genesis/MD version of Animaniacs. Other than that, yeah, they're pretty much spot on.
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on May 25, 2014, 17:40:23 PM
I think you'll be fighting, then.  LOL
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TL on May 28, 2014, 20:12:44 PM
MD Aladdin is definitely the better game!  :10:

I can think of loads of examples of these actually, but I also realised that the subject of this thread is actually very similar in many ways to this one! (http://http)
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: Greyfox on May 28, 2014, 20:44:41 PM
Quote from: "The Laird"
MD Aladdin is definitely the better game!  :109:, I played all version of Aladdin back in the day across the Snes, Amiga and the Mega-drive and althought the Megadrive was done first then ported to the Amiga, its not far in similarities and if you don't believe me, I suggest you play the Amiga version to see what I'm talking about.. I won't fault the graphics or animation in any of them, but Aladdin on the Snes in more in tune with Capcom's Arcade style gaming of its time and in the same style of it's arcade counter parts games of the same nature which makes it the most unique and therefore the better version of all formats and that alone elevates it way above the game-play and presentation of the Mega-drive version, you know I'll agree with you when you have it right, but your hat is smoking and needs putting out on this one. :36:

Game sack can be quite bias when it suits them from watching all their videos, I find a good few of them slightly off point and make it more there personally preferences rather than a technical or Universal one.
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: SnakeEyes on May 28, 2014, 21:13:16 PM
People tend to take a look at the animation and graphics on the MD and tend not to look past that. Anyone who has actually played through both games wil tell you that the Snes is the better playing game.
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: Vyothric on May 28, 2014, 21:23:58 PM
Quote from: "SnakeEyes"
People tend to take a look at the animation and graphics on the MD and tend not to look past that. Anyone who has actually played through both games wil tell you that the Snes is the better playing game.

I've completed both. I didn't really find either the SNES or MD version to be significantly better though - just that the SNES game is more SNES like and the Mega Drive game is more Mega Drive like.

The Amiga Aladdin though is just an unplayable version of the Mega Drive game due to the slowdown.

(The Master System/GG version is also different by the way).
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on May 28, 2014, 22:23:42 PM
I've only played the Genesis/MD version, so I can't compare versions.  I do enjoy the Genesis version, though.
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TL on June 01, 2014, 14:29:15 PM
Interesting that they did Batman Returns and mentioned the Lynx version but not any others, as there were loads. The Mega CD version is definitely the best of the lot though. Here are a few of the other Batman Returns games made, every version is pretty much unique:

https://youtu.be/oj-0b1gFE3U

https://youtu.be/pL7qK_gXB3E

https://youtu.be/k053c7PgbSg

https://youtu.be/v0IcqoI0d78
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on June 01, 2014, 15:16:49 PM
They said they had not played the Lynx version but, at least, they mentioned it. That is one game name that certainly has quite a number of versions. 
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TL on June 02, 2014, 16:39:36 PM
Quote from: "TrekMD"
They said they had not played the Lynx version but, at least, they mentioned it. That is one game name that certainly has quite a number of versions.

Yep, they vary a lot in quality too from the awful ones like the Amiga and Mega Drive up to the good ones like the Lynx and Mega CD
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: Vyothric on June 02, 2014, 17:20:22 PM
Batman Returns...I've played most of them but didn't really enjoy any. Pretty much all of the games were far too difficult & frustrating to be any fun. I've completed the Master System game, but it's very slow and awkward (rigid).

Batman (NES) is also different to Batman (Mega Drive), both of which I think are ace.

The Adventures of Batman & Robin (SNES/Mega CD/Mega Drive) are all different too. The SNES & MD games both play quite nicely but are so ridiculously hard that they may as well not exist.
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on June 04, 2014, 02:36:02 AM
Just found a series of videos that look at this as well.  Here is one of them...'

https://youtu.be/PX9Iv6U4DY0
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TL on June 04, 2014, 18:44:32 PM
I have played the PC Engine version of Image Fight, it's pretty good. The NES version doesn't look so hot though.
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on June 18, 2014, 01:21:37 AM
OK, so most of the videos are showing different versions of games of the same name in different systems.  How about the same name and the same system but entirely different games?  Here is a prime example:  Bram Stoker's Dracula for the Genesis/MD and Sega/Mega CD...

https://youtu.be/RqiMr0dw6tU

https://youtu.be/nDttsFDkVSE
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: Vyothric on June 18, 2014, 01:43:56 AM
Ah yes. Speaking of Bram Stoker's Dracula......

The Master System/Game Gear/NES games are mostly the same. The SNES version is like the Mega Drive version but harder and I think the Amiga version is like the Mega CD.

The Mega Drive version is the best I think. It's the only one I've finished. The Master System/NES version is OK, but has some really bad music.

Mary Shelley's Frankenstein on the Mega Drive is also different to the Mega CD game. As is The Terminator, The Adventures of Batman & Robin, Jurassic Park....
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TL on June 19, 2014, 21:28:30 PM
Speaking of The Terminator . . . . . .

https://youtu.be/NjAp0axNHSg

https://youtu.be/UGqon5tzWqU

https://youtu.be/rXxb9M3B-P4

https://youtu.be/YJU60LRVLcw

https://youtu.be/VZdY96eEsTU
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on June 19, 2014, 21:51:05 PM
OK, so the NES version looks like total crap.  The SMS and MD version look to be the same game but with better graphics on the MD.  The SNES version is different but I can't say I'm impressed with the game.  The MegaCD is different from the other Sega versions and looks really nice. 
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: Vyothric on June 19, 2014, 22:36:47 PM
The NES game IS crap. Master System version has a lot of slowdown. SNES game is way too hard. Mega Drive is just "meh".

The Mega CD Terminator however is one of my favourite games. I really, really like that game.
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: SnakeEyes on June 21, 2014, 07:23:58 AM
Turtles Tournament fighters


Megadrive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnk3Hc0F98g


Snes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFKo22b8jvQ



Street racer

Snes

https://youtu.be/L5IpT_C_Ufo


Megadrive

https://youtu.be/1f9pkDFKVek
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on June 21, 2014, 14:13:37 PM
Those TMNT games are very different indeed.  The SNES game looks like the better game of the two. 
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on June 22, 2014, 17:51:41 PM
How about Mighty Morphing Power Rangers: The Movie?  On the SNES and the Genesis/MD they games are completely different...

[align=center:qapftzp0]Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: The Movie (Sega Genesis) - Full Game (http://http)

SNES Longplay [282] Mighty Morphin Power Rangers - The Movie (2P) (a) (http://http)[/align:qapftzp0]

Also different in portable versions of the game:  Sega Game Gear and Super Game Boy...

[align=center:qapftzp0]Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: The Movie [Game Gear] [Longplay] (http://http)

Mighty Morphin Power Rangers: The Movie [Super Game Boy] [Longplay] (http://http)[/align:qapftzp0]
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: Scooter-Computer on June 22, 2014, 20:42:20 PM
Loved it! Great episode!!
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TL on June 22, 2014, 22:16:03 PM
I have the Mega Drive version, it's actually very good!
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on June 22, 2014, 22:27:01 PM
After watching these videos, I have to say that I like the Genesis/MD version the most because it follows the movie more closely and it also allows the player to play as a megazord, something the SNES version does not have.
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TL on July 06, 2014, 20:18:36 PM
https://youtu.be/D_4rrHai0EU

https://youtu.be/DIcOjUaf5P8

https://youtu.be/rj_nZdlr9bU

https://youtu.be/cG46fNsBtHc

https://youtu.be/gWo-Lm0FQZo

Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on July 07, 2014, 02:26:42 AM
Oh yes, that's another perfect example!
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: wyldephang on July 08, 2014, 09:40:24 AM
Here is Strider for the NES and Mega Drive/Genesis.  The games are based on the same central idea, but the execution is different.  Reportedly, the NES version has more responsive controls, but suffers from worse hit detection than the Mega Drive/Genesis version, which also looks nicer with its more detailed sprites.  I think the NES version has better sound effects, but the music is a toss-up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJtcPfouuLw#

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhKx6QkawRg#
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: SnakeEyes on July 08, 2014, 11:25:41 AM
Quote from: "wyldephang"
Here is Strider for the NES and Mega Drive/Genesis.  The games are based on the same central idea, but the execution is different.  Reportedly, the NES version has more responsive controls, but suffers from worse hit detection than the Mega Drive/Genesis version, which also looks nicer with its more detailed sprites.  I think the NES version has better sound effects, but the music is a toss-up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJtcPfouuLw (http://http)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhKx6QkawRg (http://http)


Nes version was a massive let down for me when I first played it. I have learned to appreciate it.
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: Shadowrunner on July 08, 2014, 14:54:11 PM
Quote from: "SnakeEyes"
Quote from: "wyldephang"
Here is Strider for the NES and Mega Drive/Genesis.  The games are based on the same central idea, but the execution is different.  Reportedly, the NES version has more responsive controls, but suffers from worse hit detection than the Mega Drive/Genesis version, which also looks nicer with its more detailed sprites.  I think the NES version has better sound effects, but the music is a toss-up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJtcPfouuLw (http://http)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhKx6QkawRg (http://http)


Nes version was a massive let down for me when I first played it. I have learned to appreciate it.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I love Strider on the NES  :113:
I can understand how people would be turned off if they were expecting the arcade game, but as it's own stand-alone game it's an absolute classic!
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on July 08, 2014, 19:32:10 PM
Quote from: "Shadowrunner"
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I love Strider on the NES  :113:
I can understand how people would be turned off if they were expecting the arcade game, but as it's own stand-alone game it's an absolute classic!

Well, the game is exactly what Nintendo wanted it to be:  it's own unique version for the NES.
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TL on July 08, 2014, 19:35:41 PM
The Master System and PC Engine versions of Strider are different too. As for the MD and NES versions, there really is no contest - the MD version is superior in every single way.

https://youtu.be/Ej5SH3iCmwk

https://youtu.be/L0S7vrz0Wxo
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: Shadowrunner on July 08, 2014, 19:51:04 PM
Quote from: "The Laird"
As for the MD and NES versions, there really is no contest - In my opinion the MD version is superior in every single way.
Fixed that for you  :3:

But seriously, I'm not sure how you really compare the two games anyway. Obviously a 16 bit game is going to have much more impressive graphics and sound than an 8 bit game, and other than the same name and lead character they really have very little in common.
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TL on July 08, 2014, 20:17:20 PM
Yeah exactly!

And seen as I wrote it, it was obviously my opinion :3:
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: wyldephang on July 11, 2014, 23:41:33 PM
The Mega Drive version did have some issues of its own, but the better execution and nicer visuals are what most people remember about the game anyway.  The NES version would've benefited from a tweaked engine; the spotty hit detection just makes it a very inconsistent game.  I like that they tried to introduce more platforming elements, and even allowed you to control your jumps in midair.  But everything that Strider NES tries to do, Ninja Gaiden does it better.

Here's something I think everyone can agree on: the PC DOS game called Mega Man is an absolute abomination which bears no relation to the game it's named after.  As a young Mega Man enthusiast in the early '90s, I'm pretty sure I was sucked into the marketing hype, but even back then I knew something didn't quite match up.  See for yourselves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXvQQZwKE1I#

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXqQCGUU4sI#

By the way, how do I attach YouTube videos to my posts?
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on July 11, 2014, 23:44:50 PM
I fixed that for you.  All you have to do is copy and paste the address directly (no need to add HTML) but remove the "s" from https so the video embeds.

So, the DOS version isn't very Mega after all?  ;)
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: wyldephang on July 12, 2014, 06:01:19 AM
No, there's nothing "mega" about the DOS game. ;)

https://youtu.be/64Fh6jbn1rE

https://youtu.be/L1iVfSObKDE

Here's another one that tends to divide opinion: Shadowrun for the Mega Drive/Genesis and Super Nintendo.  The games are based on the same universe, but everything else is different, from the characters to the gameplay and visual style.  Despite that, both games represent the grittiness of the Shadowrun universe pretty well.  I'll be submitting a review of the SNES version pretty soon.

https://youtu.be/2uz5XcKWtBM

https://youtu.be/I5mg5EFK00k
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on July 12, 2014, 13:38:43 PM
StarFox on the 2600 is the superior game, of course!  :24:  Talk about a perfect example of same name, different game! 
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on July 12, 2014, 19:51:49 PM
https://youtu.be/u7QwZL2Eemc
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TL on July 13, 2014, 13:36:42 PM
Shinobi is a good one, there are a number of completely different games based around this franchise, all of them are absolute crackers too!
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on July 13, 2014, 14:34:21 PM
It's too bad that Shinobi was not directly ported to the Genesis/MD.  It would have been a great game for the console.
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TL on July 13, 2014, 14:44:19 PM
Quote from: "TrekMD"
It's too bad that Shinobi was not directly ported to the Genesis/MD.  It would have been a great game for the console.

I have always thought this too, it's actually quite strange that Sega ignored many of their own coin-ops when making games for the Mega Drive.
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on July 13, 2014, 14:50:26 PM
Quote from: "The Laird"
Quote from: "TrekMD"
It's too bad that Shinobi was not directly ported to the Genesis/MD.  It would have been a great game for the console.

I have always thought this too, it's actually quite strange that Sega ignored many of their own coin-ops when making games for the Mega Drive.

There are "sequels" to the original for the console, though.  I'm not sure how good they are.
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TL on July 13, 2014, 15:04:53 PM
All 3 Mega Drive Shinobi games are absolutely superb. Shinobi 3 is actually my favourite Shinobi game, my brother disagrees however and thinks it is Shadow Dancer. You really can't go wrong with any of them though. The SMS conversion of the original game is also very good.
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on July 13, 2014, 15:08:51 PM
Quote from: "The Laird"
All 3 Mega Drive Shinobi games are absolutely superb. Shinobi 3 is actually my favourite Shinobi game, my brother disagrees however and thinks it is Shadow Dancer. You really can't go wrong with any of them though. The SMS conversion of the original game is also very good.
Good to know.  Something to check out.
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: wyldephang on July 14, 2014, 05:52:31 AM
You really need to, Trek. :) My favorites are Shinobi III and Revenge of Shinobi.

Here is Super Mario Bros. 2 for the Famicom and the NES.  Identical name, but everything else is different.  The Famicom version is the appropriate sequel to the original Super Mario Bros. and shares the same gameplay mechanics; the NES version of course was a rehash of Doki Doki Panic, only with different sprites.  While each version has its supporters, both games are apparently able to coexist and have done so for years if the Super Mario All-Stars bundle (which featured remastered versions of both games) is any indication.

https://youtu.be/wdq73rb2rvE

https://youtu.be/Z_o2nZO_3KA
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TL on July 17, 2014, 20:43:30 PM
Gauntlet III

https://youtu.be/RZhWUAsxkQs

https://youtu.be/PoM0lsIg3Io

Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on July 17, 2014, 21:17:08 PM
That's a good call.  Very different games there on two different Atari systems!
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on September 01, 2014, 01:09:15 AM
OK, time to add another game.  Welcome to Jurassic Park! 

https://youtu.be/0JrjR4ZD6rQ

https://youtu.be/GHQYmFSsOd0
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: onthinice on September 03, 2014, 15:53:58 PM
My favorite thing about the SNES and Mega Drive/Genesis. Same Name, Different Game. Good reason to own both. Funny that both systems had sequels of the Jurassic Park game.
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: Greyfox on September 03, 2014, 19:43:32 PM
yes agreed, and with the mega drive having more than one Jurassic Park game and more violent as well, us SNES owner would look away in shame while no one was looking and I always felt the mega drive getting the better deal.
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on September 03, 2014, 20:32:54 PM
Quote from: "onthinice"
My favorite thing about the SNES and Mega Drive/Genesis. Same Name, Different Game. Good reason to own both. Funny that both systems had sequels of the Jurassic Park game.
And those sequels are very different too!
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on October 13, 2014, 11:38:32 AM
https://youtu.be/t3A6duiy998
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on October 13, 2014, 11:40:38 AM
Saw that yesterday, the Shinobi game on PS2 is cack (-;
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on October 13, 2014, 11:51:12 AM
Quote from: "WiggyDiggyPoo"
...the Shinobi game on PS2 is cack (-;

 :21:
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on March 01, 2015, 18:40:39 PM
Thought I'd "wake up" this thread with this new video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZu1KtSKezQ
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on March 13, 2015, 02:15:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXOfO5-6e2k
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on May 04, 2015, 03:22:23 AM
Now that The Avengers are back on the big screen, this episode of Same Name, Different Game is quite appropriate...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5XqJzEF ... ubs_digest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5XqJzEF69A&feature=em-subs_digest)
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on December 21, 2015, 04:13:09 AM
Let's see if I can spark interest in this topic again.  Let's look at Die Hard games...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGJ_4_pWCN4&feature=em-subs_digest
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: onthinice on January 01, 2016, 12:59:03 PM
Good video. I had no idea about the PC Engine version. If money was not a factor both would be worth owning. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on April 12, 2016, 00:47:03 AM
A new video looking at Superman! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LRG8r6IvNw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LRG8r6IvNw)
Title: Re: Same Name, Different Game
Post by: TrekMD on July 01, 2017, 22:18:41 PM
Here is a new video looking at another game with the same name but different in gameplay.  This time, the game is Gunstar Heroes.

https://youtu.be/3_TGL6xCkus