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Title: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on October 19, 2013, 16:07:11 PM
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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/socalmike/retro-the-multi-format-throw-back-video-game-magaz (http://http)

Three decades of your favorite video game journalists have been united to collaborate on a new print & digital gaming magazine RETRO.

USA Subscribers: Shipping costs for PRINT magazines are included within the print subscription pledge amounts. There are no additional shipping charges.

International Subscribers: Even though some of our reward levels say "Ships to USA Only" we will ship to International backers. We will send you an additional invoice payable via Paypal OR Credit Card for International Shipping. We will use the least expensive rate possible. You will be contacted after the campaign ends to make this adjustment. Thank you for your support!

WELCOME TO RETRO: Do you long for the great video gaming magazines from back in the day? Magazines with some heart and soul, and not all the big media fluff? We thought so and that is why video game auction site GameGavel.com and the RetroGamingRoundup.com podcast are teaming up with some of the most popular and influential gaming journalists and personalities from the past three decades and introducing a new high quality, feature rich, video gaming magazine that will harken back to the amazing magazines from the 80's, 90's and early 2000's.

RETRO will be a magazine you will want to own and keep forever as part of your gaming collections. RETRO will be offered in BOTH digital and print editions and published bi-monthly starting January 2014. Backers will receive the Premier Issue this December! Each issue will be a minimum of 52-pages, utilize a maximum of 4-pages of ads and will feature high quality gloss print and thick stock cover. And ALL PRINT subscriptions will include the digital enhanced versions free!

WHY "RETRO"? Don't let the name RETRO fool you. It was meant to be a double entendre meaning we are bringing back a Retro style magazine with the heart and soul of past magazines AND will feature both Retro and current generation gaming content, news, exclusive interviews, reviews, top tens, guides, PC and a whole bunch more! RETRO will be feature driven with less emphasis on game previews and reviews.  

TELL US WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE IN RETRO: While we have our main feature set mapped out, we will be sending a poll to our subscribers at the end of the kickstarter campaign to gather your input.


Anyone backing this here?
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on October 19, 2013, 16:14:19 PM
I've been watching it.  It has 15 days to go and a little over halfway through.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on October 19, 2013, 16:32:36 PM
Same as.. Could make it at this rate.. :113:
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on October 19, 2013, 16:49:36 PM
That's what I'm guessing.  It will likely make it close to the end.  :) 
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on October 19, 2013, 17:53:47 PM
There is a lot of bias towards this over at RG forums, and not simply because its competition with Retro gamer magazine, but very strong criticism regarding the view of opinion been to much an American perspective, that European readers will feel agitated and it been a one sided from the American aspect, which allot of people feel isn't for them and that is just the magazine content.

Allot of people have issues with article contributors too, based on bias write ups and bias (my way or the highway) opinions and views of certain companies and software that could make it unviable for European readership, and at no point am I in the category of these peoples views or prejudice to this publication, I really like its ideas, but do not like the modern appearance in design, but its great a magazine of this type is been conceived and being produced and may give Retro gamer for the first time a real run for its money as competition, which is a good thing, they've held the crown for too long now..

Will I be backing this kick starter ?   No, as this type of thing would need continuous funding and doing a kick starter may carry them for about 2 to 4 issues, which i feel is being generous, how many copies are they considering or based to sell with this? Serious money to do this continuously, maybe they'll do more than one kick starter needed? But will surely pick it up digitally.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on October 19, 2013, 20:34:51 PM
Like you I don't get involved in what others think of people. For me if it offers another perspective then I am interested. Having said that, I have not  added my support yet.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on October 19, 2013, 20:46:09 PM
Sadly, that's how things are going these days in the retro scene.  It seems to be a constant feud and what's supposed to be an enjoyable hobby can become a battlefield.  To make it worse, people just focus on the negative and ignore the positive (to the point that because person X is involved, things are blindly attacked).  I am not familiar with every contributor to this magazine but there are some that I do know that I like.  I'm considering supporting this because of them but, if I do support it, it'll be just digital as well. 
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on October 19, 2013, 21:22:18 PM
Same as. Happy for digital copies anyway. Stuff I can read at work easily.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on October 19, 2013, 21:32:34 PM
Quote from: "zapiy"
Same as. Happy for digital copies anyway. Stuff I can read at work easily.

...and that doesn't take up room in the house!   :21:
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on October 19, 2013, 21:34:07 PM
Which is a premium.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: AmigaJay on October 19, 2013, 22:02:37 PM
Will give this a miss, the word 'fail' on the cover already put me off! Plus I've bought several american gaming mags in the past and just don't like their style of writing or layout, which kinda sounds anti American, it isn't...their mags do all have the same style, just not for me!
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TL on October 20, 2013, 13:06:19 PM
I posted this in the kickstarter thread.


I was interested in this until I saw Sean Baby was involved. A guy who, when he wrote for EGM, went on a bitter hateful crusade to bury the Jaguar at every opportunity including claiming that 32X Doom was far superior to the Jag version and was chiefly responsible for starting the Jaguar is not 64-bit (just two 32-bit processors stuck together) lie. Unfortunately EGM was a big magazine at the time and so lots of people actually believed him. I am also slight concerned that this will be very US-centric judging by what I have seen so far. But I will keep an interested eye on it, especially as a retro gaming journalist myself
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: triverse on October 29, 2013, 04:02:23 AM
Not trying to throw water on their fire but that KS, if successful, won't carry them more than one issue based on staff pay alone.  I know what they are paying their staff and it is not congruent to a successful magazine.

A year ago, I was asked by the founder of Game Gavel, Mike Kennedy, to come on board and help create a gaming site/mag with him and [name omitted upon request].  [name omitted upon request] was brought on for the key point of getting EGM staffers on board and I was apparently to work on bringing on former Gamefan staff (whom I am in contact with most).  That deal fell through.

I do hope they are able to get funding, I love a good bit of competition.  This and Game Cave launching (counting RGM) will make eight magazines covering retro and charging for their content, publishing at the same time.  Will the scene support it?  Who knows. 

From my PR firm, I know the circulation numbers of a lot of the "competition" because I worked with them to promote their stuff, sell ads and bring in new staff over the years (disclaimer, they knew about RGM and my intent to enter the scene- no ninja marketing going on).
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: dougtitchmarsh on October 29, 2013, 20:19:18 PM
I took a look, but being American it doesn't appeal to me (Classic American cars, and burgers are great though) I foresee much Nintendo and Pokemon chat. It would also cost more to get a hard copy of it here in the UK which puts me off more (I can't read digital formats it just doesn't feel right).
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Shadowrunner on October 29, 2013, 21:23:10 PM
I backed it as there's a lot of writers contributing to it that I remember from reading game magazines years ago and so I really hope it turns out good, looks like it will be funded at this point too.

That said, I am a little concerned that not enough people outside of the kickstarter will buy this when it's done and they will run out of money long before the initial 6 issues are done. Especially after Triverse's post about how much the payroll for this is going to be! I guess like any kickstarter there is risk involved, but this wasn't very expensive so I'll take the risk and hope for the best  :)
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: triverse on October 29, 2013, 21:52:27 PM
I can't go into details as to who is making what (or how I know) but it is substantial money per article.  That concerns me.  Knowing their print options, cheap paper (daily newspaper quality) and how many issues they will have to purchase to get low enough to turn at least a $1 per issue profit.  Not counting the discount they are giving for subscriptions, which I presume includes shipping at about $2 per issue, they will have to print each issue for a maximum of $2 to turn a $1 profit.

That puts them at having to push 50,000+ issues every two months just to maintain their finances and to keep them from having to go back to Kickstarter for future issues. 

I don't be mean to be a naysayer but I simply don't see 50,000+ issues sold.  EGM is having trouble pushing a slightly higher number than that and they have a "name" to work with.  Gamefan when it was revived was only able to afford printing about 65,000 copies per issue and till they got in with Hastings and a couple of other book stores, they had trouble pushing all of those issues through retail (when they had their online store open, they had over 10,000 total issues carried over the span of six issues- the store was closed before issue 7 shipped).

These are magazines with a name, they have clout with distribution channels, they have the "inside track" with developers, they have/had striving websites bringing readers in on a daily basis and they still had trouble selling through their issues.

In a recent interview on The Retro League, Mike Kennedy discussed "Retro" for about 20 minutes.  He mentioned a few gaming stores they are getting the magazine on the shelves of.  Best of luck to them.  That does not mean they will succeed though.  I was going to work with many of those same stores back in 2011 when I was originally going to launch RGM.  They are part of the reason it failed to launch- I tried too hard to find ways to get down to the price point they wanted to sell the mag at, then they would pay "half that" and split the profits 30/70 in their favor.  Remember the beginning with the price per issue I mentioned?  To be in these stores will require them to be at that price or even lower per issue.  Cutting into potential profits even more.

I do wish them the best of luck but their business model is flawed.  Severely.

For Retro Gaming Magazine, we are going with Magcloud for print.  We will be offering severely discounted prices through our website though thanks to publisher discounts on volume purchases.  Magcloud is not cheap but we are not making a cheap throw away magazine either.  We are working on making each issue a collectible, it will certainly have collectible pricing.  The print will be for people that want their magazine in their hands and to have something that will look just as good in 20 years as it does today.  Don't believe me?  Grab a "near mint" Gamefan off of Ebay.  They used 80 pound paper stock in the original (pre- 1996) issues and they hold amazingly well.

Using Magcloud also keeps us from having to have more than a minimal amount of issues on hand to fulfill orders at the discounted prices, which equals less risk and we are able to continue the mag longer than if we went with a traditional publishing option that required we purchase upwards of 20,000 copies at a time (to get a sub $4 price per issue on a lower grade paper).

Don't get me wrong, I want them to succeed but I don't see them making it long with their business model.  Shipping isn't free, apparently they will be receiving the bulk order (shipping charge) then manually sorting, addressing then mailing out those issues (another shipping charge and lost time doing a lot of work) to people that bought them.

It simply is not a sustainable business model based on what is available on their Kickstarter page.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on October 29, 2013, 22:56:26 PM
Upon reading your statements, I have to say I agree 100%, I knew this self, basing foreseeable pricing and profits based on hopes of meeting that quota, was a very poor judgement and hindsight its will be more than lightly their demise, I think they've litterly taken the meaning Retro for far gone conclusion that, that applies to printing and shipping terms that existed in the 80's.

The dynamic for today's market is to hold interest as attention spans these days are so short, they've moved onto something else within minutes, digital distribution has helped this along also, making publication near disposable to the reader, which is of course a bad thing, and raising cost of printing, shipping, and taxes, as Triverse has said, huge numbers just to turn a buck profit, I think the people behind "Retro" have real passion for what they are creating here, it just be far fetched in the notion that people are going to buy this in huge numbers, based I reckon from there research into the Retro gaming community on how much money is spend on retro gaming is not what it's going to be in reality which is sad, but again, I hope they enjoy the ride doing it, as I have 3 times before ;)
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: triverse on October 29, 2013, 23:22:49 PM
I know a lot of people will take my comments the wrong way but they stand as truth as I see it from many angles. 

About their pricing/expectations of the retro community, they should never have made these mistakes considering who is involved in the mag.  Let's take a look:

Mike Kennedy- owner of the only viable alternative to Ebay at the moment, Game Gavel.  He has tried for years to break the less than 200 active members on his site to no avail.  Just look at the completed auctions and see how many have actually sold- it is not many.  Mike is quick to push the "flash in the pan" item like complete Air Raid cartridges or Tengen Tetris review units, etc.  The problem is, those only bring in looky loos, not real/quality buyer/sellers.  People that come in on that stuff only care about seeing that one auction and what it sells for then they are done.

Michael Thomasson - owner of Homebrew Heaven/Good Deal Games.  This guy makes cartridge releases, re-releases, new games, etc for old consoles.  He has an EXTREMELY good placement on the pulse of the retro community and what it will bear.

Andy Eddy - former man behind many gaming magazines over the years, most notably, @Gamer and years ago, Video Games and Computer Entertainment.  He knows better than anyone on this team how hard it is to sell physical issues today.

Then there are the Internet people like Seanbaby.  If I was running "Retro" I would have a site up and capitalizing on the "celebrity" of these people, getting articles out on the news sites, building a fanbase for these people under the "Retro" banner.  That not happening means one thing to me, as an outsider- they are not doing anything till this thing is funded and they aren't doing anything without guaranteed pay.  What happens if this thing is not funded, how many of these people will stick around to get it launched?  Not many, I think.

It spells one thing about this magazine.  They are in it for the money, if they were in it for the fans, for the betterment of the scene as Mike has mentioned in that previously stated interview, then why aren't they building their brand now? Imagine if they had a site up, a regular readership of a few hundred thousand a month (not hard with the heavy hitters they have listed) and then had launched this Kickstarter?

Believe me, if I could have afforded some of these guys, I would have loved to grab them for Retro Gaming Magazine.  The problem is, I can't guarantee pay at the moment and they aren't interested in truly being on the ground floor of anything.  They have "Internet fame" so why would they volunteer for a short term in hope of making a big payoff later?

One thing that concerns me is, they have someone like [name omitted upon request] on staff but are not letting him layout the mag.  WHY!?!  The man has over 25 years of experience in art, layouts and related media.  I hired him to handle our covers for goodness sake!  If I could afford him, I would pay him to lay out Retro Gaming Magazine- that may happen later, depending on how things go.  The point is, when you have someone with that much experience on staff, why would you NOT use him?  You are already hitting Kickstarter for funds, just add whatever he needs to do the mag into the asking price and let it roll.

Second, where are the previews of this thing?  Why are they not showing any internal content other than just "retro ads"?  I plan on having quite a bit of free pages available before I even think of putting up purchase links and information for Retro Gaming Magazine.  I want readers to know exactly what they are getting for their money before they plunk down the cash.  Maybe I am doing it wrong.

We have a profit margin on the print of about $3 an issue right now.  That may seem like a lot but it is not when you figure in the costs of marketing, paying staff and getting content ready.  This stuff costs money, unlike making a website around Wordpress, each page has to be created nearly from scratch.  That $3 profit margin also allows us room to wiggle for sales, subscriptions and the like.  If we sell the ad space available in each issue, I plan on dropping the per issue cost to the bare minimum that it costs to print them.  The ad money will be more than enough to pay everyone a fair wage for their work that is above the average writer earning rate.  We are not expecting a ton of sales of the print, it would be suicide if we were.  We are expecting a lot of sales of the digital and hoping we can reach critical mass on the site where we sell banner space and the like.  Will we get rich on this?  Most likely not.  More likely, the people that start this journey won't be the same people that are there for issue #6 in a year.  I can assure everyone though, if you buy a subscription, you will get all of your issues if I have to write the whole mag, lay it out and mail it myself.

They are putting the cart before the horse on this unfortunately. 
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TL on October 30, 2013, 01:36:56 AM
Sean Baby would have to PAY ME to let him be involved in a retro gaming magazine.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: triverse on October 30, 2013, 01:45:15 AM
If you knew what they were paying him you probably would be sick.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TL on October 30, 2013, 01:48:05 AM
Quote from: "triverse"
If you knew what they were paying him you probably would be sick.

I probably would be, especially when I am a retro gaming journalist myself. Without being even slightly big-headed I am a million times a better writer than Sean Baby ever is too. I have no idea how that guy ever got a job.

I don't think much of Pat The NES Punk either but that's much less of an issue.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: triverse on October 30, 2013, 01:52:43 AM
Let's just say, they are paying him more than my planned advertising budget just to get RGM up and running.  For comparison sake, I spent about $500 getting my other mag up and going, Gaming on Batteries Magazine - http://www.magcloud.com/browse/issue/433708. (http://http)  I am planning on spending just a little more to get RGM going (focused FB ads, Adsense, Bing, etc).

Sad.  Just sad.  It is decisions like this that make me wonder how long these people will be with the mag.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on October 30, 2013, 02:13:29 AM
Thanks for your posts and perspective, triverse.  An interesting read that raises valid concerns about the viability of this magazine.  I just looked at the KS campaign and they still haven't met goal but there are 4 days left and they are close.  This may end up making it at the last minute. 
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on October 30, 2013, 22:29:04 PM
I just checked and looks like this made it to goal.  Congrats to their team for getting to goal ahead of time!  Now, let's hope for the best.  :)
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on October 30, 2013, 23:40:16 PM
Lets hope for the best, isn't that wishful thinking  :21:

Again I'll wait the arrival of the digital version and take it apart piece by piece on technical merit, I just hope I don't see the word Awesome being used allot in the magazine!
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: triverse on October 31, 2013, 01:01:35 AM
Exclamation points may be something better to worry about seeing overused.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on October 31, 2013, 01:09:48 AM
From my point of view everyone is entitled to a chance guys, alot of you are known in the scene and you know others but some of us like me are not and therefore i am open to giving someone that chance.. :113:
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on October 31, 2013, 01:18:51 AM
I totally agree Zap, but I'm not on the band wagon of hoping it will fail, my argument and concerns were over the funding for continual production of the product, Triverse added to this like with actual factual information, I of course actually wish them the best of luck and have no I'll feeling towards any who are involved, but I still my ground, the content may be great or rubbish, but to create this on a regular basis, there kick starter only cover 2-3 issues which I think they are hoping will turn enough revenue around to make more in the coming months , or it could be a one hit wonder which they are already aware off..

Who knows, but again, its another Retro mag for us to lay our hands on, and I myself can't get enough off :)
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: triverse on October 31, 2013, 01:29:57 AM
I apologize if my comments come off as doom-sayer stuff for them.  My comments were meant as facts, though personal taste probably still got through.  I have been through Kickstarter before with my own magazine, and it failed, which was fine when I found out that right off the bat, all Kickstarter projects that are funded lose 20% to KS and then 5% to Paypal.  This is something I hope Retro planned for because at the moment, they are only getting about $38,000 or so.

I hope they make it, I hope they make plenty of issues and are more than just a one hit wonder (I have worked on those before- anyone remember GameGO! Magazine?).  It is tough to come back from that type of setback.  It can be avoided if you keep an eye on quality content and coming through for the fans that believe and of course, keeping a firm, tight, grip on the purse strings and a good bit of knowledge as to where the money is going.

It remains to be seen how they will fare.  No one knows.  Going by what Mike Kennedy has made available in interviews and various forums, FB posts, etc, they have not even started on the mag yet (they are waiting for the KS funds).  I hope that means they were waiting to see if the project was successful to begin and not that they are waiting for the funds to clear before starting.  If they wait for the funds to clear, they are going to be later than January.

I am good friends with [name omitted upon request], I can only wish him best of luck with this project.  The same for the rest of the team.  They have a nice collection of alumni, now let's see a magazine come of it.  The fans have spoken, they are interested in seeing this go through to at least one issue (or six depending on how you look at it as they are offering a subscription option in that KS).
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on October 31, 2013, 01:40:06 AM
I never thought that for a minute guys, all i meant was i guess i don't know these people so i guess i am seeing this from a totally different perspective than others.. :113:
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on October 31, 2013, 01:40:49 AM
Quote from: "Greyfox"
Lets hope for the best, isn't that wishful thinking  :21:  I want them to succeed and make a good product.  ;)
Title: Re: Retro Gaming Magazine
Post by: TL on November 04, 2013, 19:20:52 PM
I am equally stunned and disgusted at the same time that a so called "writer" like Sean Baby is getting paid $800 to be part of this  :13:

I wouldn't let him write for a magazine I was involved in even if he paid me, he really is one of the worst gaming journalists ever (and that is saying something!)

After hearing things like this any interest I had in this mag has pretty much ended.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on November 04, 2013, 20:35:14 PM
Whats wrong with his writing fella? Can't say i have heard much about the guy...then again i just read the reviews and barely form an opinion of anyone across all my mags i buy.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TL on November 04, 2013, 20:52:04 PM
Quote from: "zapiy"
Whats wrong with his writing fella? Can't say i have heard much about the guy...then again i just read the reviews and barely form an opinion of anyone across all my mags i buy.

This is the guy who was near enough completely responsible for the Jaguar is not 64-bit Myth.

He also claimed in a review that the Sega 32X version of Doom was better than the Jaguar one, which is made even more laughable by the fact that said 32X version is in fact a gimped port of the Jag's with borders, missing levels and far less lighting effects (among other things).

He also claims on his own website that "the 20 Worst games really would just be 19 Atari Jaguar games and the Atari 2600's god damn E.T."  :29:
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on November 04, 2013, 22:27:27 PM
Lol..that is hilarious...although he is factually retarded in his information as the whole planet would probably already know, our loyalty to the Jag and 32x is amicable and scary at the same time, you'd swear you made the hardware he was clearly taking the piss on. Absolutely no fanboyism going on at all :21:

And proves one thing, that people(the magazine creators) think like to attach fuckwits like this to stir controversy and rattle cages and has worked a treat here lol.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TL on November 04, 2013, 22:48:35 PM
Hmm, I am not sure there intention was to stop people buying the magazine, which is what they have done.

There is a difference between controversy and stupidity.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on November 05, 2013, 11:04:58 AM
In other words although they presume he is a talented gaming journalist , I would suspect that know or possible are aware they he has rubbed certain communities up the wrong way with his bias information, and I would guess the way they look at it is "well you can't please everyone" there bound to be haters of these gaming journalists as you have clearly demonstrated.

But its like everything, I used to get lots of issues of Edge magazine, yet they were so f'ing bias is the game was not 100% original, programmed the best way, or dint have graphics or gameplay out of this world, they'd knock it from actually what it really should of received in a general sense, and hated it so much for that, that I got sense and stopped purchasing out right many years ago, but yet its one of the most stylish magazine in production wasted on such bias review work, I won't even download it illegally, they are that bad with their higher than mighty opinions.

So my story at the end of tunnel is, they have this guy on board to write articles which will either upset or enrich, but I reckon they'll upset more the opposite. But you have to take the good with the bad, and besides, as Triverse has said as have I, there business model is far fetched in the ideals of a continued publication. I think it would be suited for one o those E-magazine site you can purchase from, like what retro gamer uses.

So put your pitch folk back in the closet for now  :113:
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: SnakeEyes on November 05, 2013, 11:26:47 AM
I like Sean Baby, I think some of his articles for cracked are brilliant, especially the UFC related ones.

I think some people may be a bit biased against him because of his hatred for the JAG. I dont agree with a lot of his gaming related stuff but some people are clearly emotionally involved in their dislike for him. He has many people who enjoy his writing.

Yes he is biased against the Jag, but it does work both ways, Take this site foe example, some of the reviews for some of the jags games are hilariously biased in favour of the Jag for example.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: SnakeEyes on November 05, 2013, 11:39:26 AM
Quote from: "The Laird"
Quote from: "zapiy"
Whats wrong with his writing fella? Can't say i have heard much about the guy...then again i just read the reviews and barely form an opinion of anyone across all my mags i buy.

This is the guy who was near enough completely responsible for the Jaguar is not 64-bit Myth.

He also claimed in a review that the Sega 32X version of Doom was better than the Jaguar one, which is made even more laughable by the fact that said 32X version is in fact a gimped port of the Jag's with borders, missing levels and far less lighting effects (among other things).

He also claims on his own website that "the 20 Worst games really would just be 19 Atari Jaguar games and the Atari 2600's god damn E.T."  :29:

He is obviously taking the piss there though. Its just a bit of exagerration and we all do it.

Many people will list 5 Nintendo consoles in a 5 worst consoles list or list 5 mario games. Everyone does it TBH.

Look at the thread on the 5 worst retro computers on this very Forum, someone on ther listed 5 Amstrad computers shoould be the worst and you thought that was hilarious and even added in another Amstrad computer. How is that any different in all honest.

I love the CPC 464 and I just laughed it off, you can't take things like that personally.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TL on November 05, 2013, 12:28:46 PM
There's a very big difference between making a joke on a forum and writing something for a magazine that's read by thousands of people and considered an authority on video games.

As for your comment about the reviews, I don't think I am going to dignify that with a response.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Shadowrunner on November 05, 2013, 17:32:49 PM
Personally, I think any time you have people reviewing games that they have loved playing for the past 10 or 20 years, that the scores are going to be a little biased. I would agree that some of the review scores on this site are a little high but the same can be said for any site that has fan reviews. It's pretty hard to be impartial when you have such fond memories of playing a game or playing them brings back memories of your childhood.
Just the way it is and I don't see anything wrong with it  :)
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on November 05, 2013, 22:46:34 PM
Reviews are someones opinion and we dont all agree all the time..

I accept everyone is allowed an opinion on a game and therefore we are allowed opinions on the reviewers.  Seems fair. :113:
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: SnakeEyes on November 05, 2013, 23:02:22 PM
Quote from: "zapiy"
Reviews are someones opinion and we dont all agree all the time..

I accept everyone is allowed an opinion on a game and therefore we are allowed opinions on the reviewers.  Seems fair. :113:


I totally agree. People are always slightly biased one way or another. Sean Baby hates on the Jag, This site praises it very highly.

Its bias working both ways and its only opinion. My point was if you want to say how great something is you can't complain if someone else really dislikes it and says so.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TL on November 05, 2013, 23:09:48 PM
He showed bias when he constantly said that "the Genesis is inferior to the SNES", which we all know is a bit silly. That isn't so bad, it's just an opinion (albeit a wrong one) but there is a difference between having a bit of bias and being plain wrong and factually incorrect. If Sean Baby was just biased it wouldn't be a problem but he outright lied on many occasions and just made stuff up. You can't expect to be respected as a serious journalist if you can't be factual.

I only gave a couple of examples of stuff he made up, I could find loads more - such as him claiming PS1 Rayman had better graphics than the Jag version when even UbiSoft advertised that the Jag version had twice as many colours on screen and more animation frames. Or him claiming that Jaguar Super Burnout had poor frame rate when it runs at a solid 60 FPS.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: SnakeEyes on November 05, 2013, 23:35:11 PM
Quote from: "The Laird"
He showed bias when he constantly said that "the Genesis is inferior to the SNES", which we all know is a bit silly. That isn't so bad, it's just an opinion (albeit a wrong one) but there is a difference between having a bit of bias and being plain wrong and factually incorrect. If Sean Baby was just biased it wouldn't be a problem but he outright lied on many occasions and just made stuff up. You can't expect to be respected as a serious journalist if you can't be factual.

I only gave a couple of examples of stuff he made up, I could find loads more - such as him claiming PS1 Rayman had better graphics than the Jag version when even UbiSoft advertised that the Jag version had twice as many colours on screen and more animation frames. Or him claiming that Jaguar Super Burnout had poor frame rate when it runs at a solid 60 FPS.


I love the Genesis, but I do think overall its inferior to the Snes. Its just an opinion. As for the rest of the stuff, I can understand why you have a problem with it, I really can. All I was doing was pointing out was that its human nature to lean too far one way or the other and sometimes its just better to accept that some peoples opinions sway to far in one direction and they may convince themselves of something that is not actually there. As in you hate something and you tend to imagine flaws that are not really there because you are looking so hard. Just like someone can try so hard to find good points in something they love that other people think they are blind or making stuff up.

It happens, its human nature.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on November 18, 2013, 18:37:18 PM
Eitherway, it got funded..

Congrats all involved.  :113:
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on November 18, 2013, 20:37:19 PM
Well I guess the next stage to see how well they've trained themselves to stay out of hot water, when the flamers and profit losses department comes knocking, as Triverse said it takes more than just a nice aftershave and smiles to do this continually, see what happens, and I expect people should have there first issue by?
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on November 18, 2013, 21:17:54 PM
Perhaps mate but would that not be the case for all Kickstarter ventures?
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on November 18, 2013, 21:50:26 PM
No, because this venture is a printed publication in the world of touch screen and digital media driven whores, this really is old school stuff, the problem is, can you see teens or youngsters grabbing this over call of duties: ghosts or bf4 inspired cover art on a magazine at the news stands over a retro (what the hell is this? ) magazine with no reference to them to relate too? This is more or less what I mean. The sad thing is I don't think they realise how niche their market is, and then you have the haters, which will probably give this a good going over (expected) and will be an up hill struggle to a certain degree.

Remember allot of people don't even know who half the writers are, sure I don't know hardly any of them and I grew up with the likes of diehard fan, and EGM etc. again this is my point , no awareness as such.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on November 21, 2013, 03:17:07 AM
A new update has been sent to Kickstarter supporters about the magazine.  Here is the update:

[font=georgia:2qpygllv]Hello Backers!

I just wanted to give you all an update as to our progress on the Premier Issue of RETRO magazine!  The update is we are working hard with our writing and creative team and are on schedule for a December shipment of the January 2014 Premier Issue!

The premier issue will weigh in at 68 Pages and you won't be disappointed with the great content that will adorn the pages. 

International backers will be receiving their "extra shipping" invoices soon and these will be emailed directly to you. Paypal will be the preferred payment method for those.

 If you know anyone else that might want to get a subscription or even just an individual copy of the printed Premier Issue of RETRO (Limited to about 500 copies left) you can give them this subscription link.  Prices include shipping anywhere in the world!  Remember, you can also buy RETRO as a gift for that gaming friend or family member!  Just click the "I'm gifting to someone box" and you are good to go!

https://checkout.subscriptiongenius.com/ReadRetro.com/ (http://https)

We are also working diligently on launching http://www.ReadRetro.com (http://http) our official website that will be running new, original and up-to-date content to complement the magazine. 

Happy Holidays from all of us at RETRO and thanks again for all of your support!

Mike Kennedy[/font:2qpygllv]
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on November 21, 2013, 09:22:50 AM
:13: 68 pages? Is this a joke? Our magazine " Homebrew Heroes " was 106 pages, and the price isn't bad, but a little bit pricy, 68 page magazine (printed) doesn't really deliver on its merit regarding its pricing does it? And I bet out of that 68 pages, there will be at least 10 - 15 pages on adverts, so when you minus that, you've got about 53 - 58 pages of actual content, sure Retro gamer magazine this month had 18 pages of adverts from a page count of 116 standard, leaving 98 pages of actual articles, they didn't skimp on content coverage, I'm sorry but this is not good, I think the content from issue one is gonna be split across issue 2 to why such a small page count, I've seen this being done before.

I understand that advertisements play a big role in a magazines existence, but 68 pages? I'm sorry for what they are asking, doesn't fit the bill cost wise, and it will be very interesting to discover what grade of page they'll be using. I really sound like a begrudger don't I? I'm not I promise, things have changed big time these days and people will no invest or purchase something that they feel isn't giving value for money. I also believe that the standard content for a magazine is at least 100 pages including advertisements.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TL on November 21, 2013, 13:23:21 PM
You can take off the front and back covers too. We are probably looking at just 50 pages.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Bobinator on December 17, 2013, 09:58:18 AM
Oh, hey, they've got a cover now.

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/001/450/054/826cf4c542b9bec28df8b9094b297095_large.jpg?1387252109)

From the looks of things, this looks to be more like a resource for modern-day retro enthusiasts, as somebody else who commented on the image described it. I don't really mind that, but I guess I'll have to see how it actually looks when the first issue hits. I'll save my bitching until then, because I'm sure I'll have something or other to complain about. :P

...Seriously, though, I like the concept of this. While they might not be entirely retro, they seem to be at least in the spirit of it, and as long as they've got decent coverage of olders tuff, I'm OK with that.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: triverse on December 18, 2013, 03:08:22 AM
Breaking my promise to not post in this thread anymore, I do want to say, that cover was created by Gamecave Magazine's founder/art editor Rob Duenas.  He is the guy that did the covers/layouts for the rebooted Gamefan Magazine (me and a few of the guys in RGM worked with Gamefan for a short period). 

Rob can be found here:

http://sketchcraft.com (http://http)
https://www.facebook.com/rob.duenas?fref=ts (http://https)

Dude is cool as all get out and his art rocks.  I am proud to be able to call him a personal friend.  Glad to see him getting out and finally being able to spread his wings and rock.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TL on December 18, 2013, 21:17:48 PM
Love the way 3 of those article have all been done by Retro Gamer in recent history. Will definitely be giving this a miss.

Also: Modern game on the cover = FAIL
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: ReadRetro on December 28, 2013, 00:06:54 AM
Hello RVGers!

If I may jump into the discussion here a bit . . . .

First off, thanks to the many of you over here that subscribed to RETRO.  It is really great to see RETRO shipping to over 40 countries, the UK being #3 on the list of most subscribers behind the USA and Canada!  Awesome!

I wanted to come in and just correct a few things that have been said, not at all wanting to stir the pot with anyone.  First off, just as an FYI for anyone who might have a great idea for a Kickstarter and are unsure of the fees, they take 5% and Amazon (their payment processor) takes 3-5% - http://www.kickstarter.com/help/fees. (http://http)  So 8-10% off the top.  Far less than the 25% discussed herein and Paypal is not involved with Kickstarter AT ALL.

I wanted to address the sustainability of RETRO.  We used Kickstarter to "Kickstart" the project as it didn't involve finding outside funding and thusly giving up any "equity" in the company and it is also a good way to gauge interest, that costs nothing in the beginning.  It made good sense and it turns out it all worked as it should have.  The Kickstarter essentially funded the first year of RETRO at a specific budget per issue less advertising (for five issues, we sold out of the premier adverts as Kickstarter pledge levels).  Note that RETRO will not feature a column or story by every one of our contributors.  Some will have recurring columns while others will flip-flop with others in every other issue.  So we aren't paying every single contributor on that list for each issue, just about half of them.

I am not going to discuss what each of them is getting paid as that is private, just know that there is a set content budget for each issue and we are living within that budget.  The layout and design of RETRO isn't costing us anything, as my Creative Director who came to me in the beginning of this whole thing and said he would work pro bono for as long as it takes.  He is also in the magazine industry and works with big printing houses and is getting us some very competitive printing and shipping costs.  And our Editorial Director, Brandon Justice is working Pro Bono as well because he also believes in the future success of RETRO.  That and of course I am at the bottom of the totem pole with regards to getting paid.  This is being done for the love of the hobby, trust me :)  Just like everything I do - GameGavel.com , RetroGamingRoundup.com Podcast, RetroArcadeRadio.com, GamerSpots.com, etc.  All of those sites are costing me way more than I am making, again doing to for the love of the hobby, with hopes of one day roping this all into a full time gig that I am quite passionate about.

To address the ads in RETRO, our model is (1) page of adverts for every (10) pages of content.  The premier however has about 4-5 pages of adverts per the 68 pages.  These adverts will more than offset our production costs and even give us some decent profit.  Then the subscriptions are in addition to the adverts.  Digital sales via the newsstands will also be a profit center and digital issues have no additional cost.  Remember, we have both.  Print with free digital and digital only.

RETRO will be distributed in North America through Play N Trade video game stores (about 100 stores in USA and Canada) + we are working with the largest magazine circulation company in the USA to get us distribution in Barnes & Noble (600+ stores) and Hastings Entertainment (100 stores +/-).  And you will also be able to find RETRO very soon in the Apple Newstand, Android Newstand and Kindle Newstand.

Since the Kickstarter has ended we are continuing to sell subscriptions, nearly 300 since November 5th.  And we've really yet to even promote it.  The promotions will really kick into gear when the premier starts hitting mailboxes in about 7-10 day and with the launch of our complementary website, http://www.readretro.com (http://http).  We have BIG plans for ReadRetro, trust me. Hope to be launching that, next week!

If you haven't seen it yet, here is a preview of the premier issue of RETRO and Table of Contents.  It should give you a good idea of what we are about - the past, present and future of RETRO gaming.

http://issuu.com/markkaminski/docs/issue_1_preview/1?e=7425532/6091148 (http://http)

And if you haven't subscribed yet, please consider!  https://checkout.subscriptiongenius.com/ReadRetro.com/ (http://https)  The price you see here will include shipping no matter where you might be in the world.

Thanks again guys and for those of you waiting for your first issue of RETRO to hit your mailboxes they will be shipping out starting January 3rd.

Mike Kennedy
Publisher | RETRO
@RetroKennedy
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TL on December 28, 2013, 00:41:29 AM
Thanks for popping by Mike, much appreciated. We used to speak a lot back in the day when the Atari Age chat was hosted on Game Gavel. I am also a friend of Mike James, the English member of Retro Gaming Round-up.

I am sure you have read my criticisms and reservations about the magazine here and I just want to say that I make them as somebody who has a lot of experience in this field. I have been a freelance video games journalist for about 4 years now and have written for many of the successful magazines to be launched over that time including Atari User, Pixel Nation, Retro Fusion and of course the most successful one of them all Retro Gamer, who I am a regular writer for. I was also the Editor In Chief of Homebrew Heroes so know exactly what it is like to bring my own product/vision to the market. I personally would welcome another retro magazine on the market and I would also love to see you succeed but when I see people like Sean baby involved it does not fill me with confidence. My heart also dropped when I saw a modern game on the cover of what is supposed to be a retro mag, then it dropped even further when I looked at the preview and saw yet another modern game! I have to ask about why, when you already have a pretty limited page count compared to similar magazines, you devote so much space to modern games in a retro publication. Speaking with my professional hat on here I always try to write articles that have never been done before or ones that have never had the focus they deserved. As I already said, the contents seem to suggest the articles in issue 1 at least will play it very safe and very much be a case of deja vu. Of course you could prove me wrong and offer up new stories I have never read before, we will see I guess.

I look forward to seeing what you offer up anyway as I am as retro as they come. I just wish you had been more daring and come up with something a bit more original and dare I say it, a bit more retro.

Best of luck with it.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: ReadRetro on December 28, 2013, 00:55:25 AM
Thanks for the welcome :)

As far as the contributor team I've assembled, you have to understand with a group this big there will always be likes and dislikes among readers.  I can say with regard to Seanbaby, I have had way more praise than criticism with him being on my team.  For the rest of the contributor team, I wanted to bring a well rounded team consisting of the most well known writers from the past 30 years so that no matter what generation of gaming you were part of you might recognize and appreciate someone on our team.  I think I have done that for the most part.

Either way, it is our first issue and it will continue to be improved on and fleshed out.  We will take all the impending praise AND criticism and factor it in as we move forward.  Believe me, I want it to be a magazine for the ages and have a long life and that is why I did it.  We will work very hard to live up to everyone's expectations.

We chose Mighty No. 9 for our cover story because it was a successful Kickstarter with 67,000 backers.  Backers we are converting to subscribers on a daily basis.  Judging by the success of this RETRO inspired Kickstarter we knew we could get their support and the support of their backers and from a business standpoint, reporting on games with large followings makes a bunch of sense :)

We hope that the premier will sell itself but only time will tell .  .  .
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on December 28, 2013, 00:57:20 AM
Hi Mike, and thanks for joining and providing us with additional information.  I've subscribed to the magazine (through Kickstarter) and I hope it succeeds. 
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TL on December 28, 2013, 01:08:09 AM
Quote from: "ReadRetro"
We chose Mighty No. 9 for our cover story because it was a successful Kickstarter with 67,000 backers.  Backers we are converting to subscribers on a daily basis.  Judging by the success of this RETRO inspired Kickstarter we knew we could get their support and the support of their backers and from a business standpoint, reporting on games with large followings makes a bunch of sense :)

I can see your point and it is good business sense, but it is not a retro game and the magazine is called Retro. In my opinion if you call your magazine Retro then it needs to be full of Retro content. I hate it when people bring out the "retro inspired" line. Many new games that come out are inspired by older games, that doesn't make them retro. They are still modern games on modern machines.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Shadowrunner on December 28, 2013, 02:26:07 AM
I love playing retro games and reading about them and I also love playing modern games and reading about them. For me this magazine sounds like the perfect fit and I can't wait for my first issue to arrive  :)
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on December 28, 2013, 16:25:07 PM
I hate to rain on anyone parade regarding this type of thing, but I have to agree with Laird's statements over selling something with the title "Retro" so I took the liberty of googling the definition of the word "Retro" in its entirety of its meaning.

[hr:1ak775i1][/hr:1ak775i1]
retro   (rtr)
adj.
1. Retroactive: retro pay.
2. Involving, relating to, or reminiscent of things past; retrospective: "As is often the case in retro fashion, historical accuracy is somewhat beside the point" (New York Times).
n. pl. retros
A fashion, decor, design, or style reminiscent of things past.
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition.
[hr:1ak775i1][/hr:1ak775i1]

Now the publication you have presented and described in all its professional delight and beautiful layout and design I salute your team and you, but it begs the ideals of modern retro gaming as stated does not at any bear any reminiscent of the meaning stated above, as this software coverage (modern) is way to young to classed as vintage or retro, although you have vintage coverage in your magazine your still applying to the modern gamer, which indirectly defunks the Retro title of your publication, Retro is Retro, modern game coverage is not Retro, I would consider a name change, or base this product as a general video gaming magazine, if there is more Retro game related coverage that exceeds 50-60% of the magazine, then the modern gaming should have its own little corner, rather than it been lime lighted, you will have legions of annoyed customers at retail, complaining the title name did not have the content they expected to, but again your at risk of the fallen trap for masses will strike here, trying to please everyone is super hard to achieve most of the time, you should check out feedback over at RG forums.. For their magazine.

Look ..it's not often something like this comes along and I'm sure this constructive criticism is only because we all want this to be something special and also for you guy to make a dream job out of what you like best, but at the expense of you sanity lol..

As I mention and what The Laird mentioned, this will either make or break, but you need to be absolutely sure your customer base know what they are buying into is all really we are both saying.

Again, best of luck with this, I really hope it booms into a great firework :)
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: ReadRetro on December 28, 2013, 18:15:18 PM
Thanks Grey,

RETRO is probably 80-90% per your definition of RETRO and 10-20% reminiscent of RETRO so I think we are ok :)
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on December 29, 2013, 14:50:13 PM
Quote from: "ReadRetro"
Thanks Grey,

RETRO is probably 80-90% per your definition of RETRO and 10-20% reminiscent of RETRO so I think we are ok :)
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on December 30, 2013, 04:43:20 AM
Hey, ReadRetro, any plans to do coverage on the Vectrex?  It is the most unique retro system, still without a real competitor even today.  No one else has done real vector graphics for a home console.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Bobinator on December 31, 2013, 07:19:26 AM
So, hey, ReadRetro, if you're around, I just wanted to let you know I went ahead and bought the digital subscription. I'm honestly more interested in seeing a different perspective from the way RG's writers tend to see things, so here's hoping for the best from you guys!
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on December 31, 2013, 11:56:42 AM
Quote from: "Bobinator"
So, hey, ReadRetro, if you're around, I just wanted to let you know I went ahead and bought the digital subscription. I'm honestly more interested in seeing a different perspective from the way RG's writers tend to see things, so here's hoping for the best from you guys!

I'm sure they won't disappoint you guys..from the preview I've seen its got what you guys love.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on December 31, 2013, 21:31:08 PM
I too am very interested to see what the first issues offers.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: ReadRetro on January 03, 2014, 01:30:17 AM
Quote from: "Bobinator"
So, hey, ReadRetro, if you're around, I just wanted to let you know I went ahead and bought the digital subscription. I'm honestly more interested in seeing a different perspective from the way RG's writers tend to see things, so here's hoping for the best from you guys!

Thanks!  The digital issues will be hitting next week!  About the same time the print issues will start hitting mailboxes.  Hope you enjoy and please let us know what you think.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: ReadRetro on January 03, 2014, 01:31:26 AM
Quote from: "TrekMD"
Hey, ReadRetro, any plans to do coverage on the Vectrex?  It is the most unique retro system, still without a real competitor even today.  No one else has done real vector graphics for a home console.

Yes, you will see Vex material in future issues :)
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on January 03, 2014, 01:31:52 AM
Quote from: "ReadRetro"
Quote from: "TrekMD"
Hey, ReadRetro, any plans to do coverage on the Vectrex?  It is the most unique retro system, still without a real competitor even today.  No one else has done real vector graphics for a home console.

Yes, you will see Vex material in future issues :)

Excellent!  Thank you!
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on January 04, 2014, 23:32:32 PM
Quote from: "ReadRetro"
Quote from: "TrekMD"
Hey, ReadRetro, any plans to do coverage on the Vectrex?  It is the most unique retro system, still without a real competitor even today.  No one else has done real vector graphics for a home console.

Yes, you will see Vex material in future issues :)

Great stuff,

I guess you have been asked this before, can i buy single issues?
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: ReadRetro on January 04, 2014, 23:43:13 PM
Quote from: "zapiy"
Quote from: "ReadRetro"
Quote from: "TrekMD"
Hey, ReadRetro, any plans to do coverage on the Vectrex?  It is the most unique retro system, still without a real competitor even today.  No one else has done real vector graphics for a home console.

Yes, you will see Vex material in future issues :)
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on January 04, 2014, 23:58:44 PM
Nice one i will have me a bit of that. :113:
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TL on January 21, 2014, 03:19:43 AM
Ok, so this is out now and despite my reservations I went into it with an open mind and here are my thoughts.

Initial impression: Nice clean design
Overall impression: The least retro "retro" magazine I have ever read.

Pros:
- Design is quite slick
- Writing is of a decent standard for the most part

Cons:
- Heavy Nintendo bias (but expected that anyway).
- Half the magazine is basically an advert for Game Gavel.
- Nothing fresh or new about any of the content, all stuff you could read on the net for free.
- Ridiculous amount of modern games in what is supposed to be a retro magazine.
- Awful choice of cover.
- How many editors do you need? Is this where all the Kickstarter money went?
- The order of it didn't seem to flow very well
- No balance to the content
- Out of date news seemed pointless.
- Some articles seemed a bit like adverts.

Also I want to add that the answer to the "Did the NES save gaming" letter is one of the dumbest things I have ever read in a gaming magazine. It completely ignores the 7800, that was seen as the next big thing in it's test market (not the NES) and also the booming computer market. Clearly biased Nintendo fanboyism at its worst.

Overall: One of the biggest missed opportunities ever. I sure hope issue 2 is better because this was quite frankly rubbish. Will now be interesting to see what Retro Gaming Magazine (http://http) do, can they do things properly?
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on January 22, 2014, 02:22:40 AM
So, I finally was able to sit and read the premier issue.  I got this one in print since it was the first issue and I avoided reading the digital version.  Sadly, I agree with a lot of what Laird has said.  While the magazine is definitely well put together and printed using nice paper, I was left wanting for more of what I'd consider true retro content.  It almost felt to me like I was looking at a modern gaming magazine with some retro stuff added in.  A perfect example of this is the two page spread on pages 16 and 17.  Out of 8 gaming gear items, 3 had a true retro connection (the Retron N5, the Sega hardware cases for the iPhone, and the flasks shaped like NES carts).

I did enjoy Ed Semrad's interview and would have liked for it to be longer.  Michael Thomasson's interview was also nice.

I understand the magazine is trying to cater to modern gamers also but the magazine may need to change how it organizes its articles so that retro and modern are separated.  I don't understand why a section called Retrograde Reviews has modern releases mixed with retro releases.  I would have had expected the "Latest Releases" to cover new homebrew releases for retro consoles and the "Retro Reviews" section to review original release games for retro consoles. 

The magazine is just starting so it certainly has opportunity to make changes.  It feels like it is struggling to find its identity because of the mixture of retro and modern in it.  Here's hoping it solidifies its retro identity. 
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Scooter-Computer on January 26, 2014, 22:07:55 PM
okay, so here's a magazine in the USA. hmmmm, are subs open?
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on January 26, 2014, 22:48:26 PM
Quote from: "Scooter-Computer"
okay, so here's a magazine in the USA. hmmmm, are subs open?

Here is the site where you can order the issues.  I'm not sure if you can get a subscription there but you can order the first issue form the page:  http://readretro.com/ (http://http)
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Shadowrunner on January 29, 2014, 17:21:24 PM
Got my copy of the first issue yesterday  :)
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TL on January 29, 2014, 17:51:10 PM
Quote from: "Shadowrunner"
Got my copy of the first issue yesterday  :)

I have no problem with modern gaming or them doing that, my problem is with them calling it Retro. That suggest it is a retro-centric magazine, which it is not. The name is very misleading indeed.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on January 29, 2014, 23:50:30 PM
Glad to see you like it, Shadowrunner.  :)  You are likely right about the demographic. 
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Shadowrunner on January 30, 2014, 15:02:14 PM
Thanks Trek  :) I went back and finished reading the magazine last night and totally agree with your comment about the reviews section. They should have them split into two sections rather than having the retro and modern reviews all together.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on January 30, 2014, 17:34:00 PM
I finally got my copy today..initially impressed with the design astentics but.....I've had a quick browse and find it as sterile as a clinic in a hospital, there is simply nothing original in it to what I was lead to believe and was promised if I'm been honest. I'm not saying it rubbish or bad, nothing like that, But I actually found myself skipping page after page with the phase of "meh" on my mind, and I rarely do that with anything, which is not a good thing especially when I've purchased something.

The lazy design, and it is lazy, that they've saved time and effort while continually using the same layouts and have not created anything unique or shown any real passion for the content they have written about in its presentation, anyone can do this, there is absolutely nothing that has been done in way of the design to make its key articles stand out from the rest other than the "Transistor" article in any big way (dispointing to see that) now I know it's not the freelancers fault, but the editor and graphic designers, and to think they've probably paid him or her or them about $2-3,000 dollars or more to do this is a fucking travesty!! , firstly Homebrew Heroes digital magazine, 107 pages of which 6 pages are adverts, 98 pages of actual content costs in dollars $5.40, Atari Gamer Magazine 75 pages, 5 adverts, 70 pages of actual content, costs $4.34 and was created and design for the homage and feel look and nostalgia of those games and platforms and were both created by me (one person) excluding the contributors, this fucking sickens me to the core, to see something like this with a real chance to compete with Retro Gamer Magazine, and received a kings ransom to do so, well they need not worry at all, this is a complete let down in both content (which can be found in most places for free) and design (Edge magazine inspired layout and design works best with technology magazines, not suggested retro gaming or vintage inspired products) furthermore printing fillers that can be read online for free is a real show of lack exclusive content gathering, so I prosume they did this to save time and money reaching its deadlines and or release dates?.

And using news which has been out for some time is a sign of struggle if you ask me? its on the net for free and anyone into this community will or already have either read it or heard about it, simply shocking. A bit of a joke for a paid publication that thinks it's all about Retro, even Games TM make the effort to change the look for their retro section, I can't see this going beyond 3 issues and that's been generous, I'm still trying to figure out who exactly this magazine is aimed at? Retro enthusiasts ? , next generation gamers with a small interest in vintage video games? , someone who likes games, but doesn't mind a mish mash of unbalanced amounts of gaming coverage or articles that are neither relevant to any community as a whole? I can't figure it?

And before the pencil breakers appear in defence , this is an objective opinion from a designers point of view based on experience in magazine concept and creation, in other words I know what I like and what should present on a pacific themed product :(
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on January 30, 2014, 22:39:09 PM
Thats the beauty of opinions pal, we are all allowed them.. I have yet to experience the mag but i will in time, from what i have read above is that our North American friends like it more than our European members (shall we say) albeit for some layout issues anyway. Is that more a culture thing? I doubt it but i am sure an element of "this suits our market" (North America)..
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Banshee on March 02, 2014, 22:49:22 PM
Quote from: "Greyfox"
I finally got my copy today..initially impressed with the design astentics but.....I've had a quick browse and find it as sterile as a clinic in a hospital, there is simply nothing original in it to what I was lead to believe and was promised if I'm been honest. I'm not saying it rubbish or bad, nothing like that, But I actually found myself skipping page after page with the phase of "meh" on my mind, and I rarely do that with anything, which is not a good thing especially when I've purchased something.

The lazy design, and it is lazy, that they've saved time and effort while continually using the same layouts and have not created anything unique or shown any real passion for the content they have written about in its presentation, anyone can do this, there is absolutely nothing that has been done in way of the design to make its key articles stand out from the rest other than the "Transistor" article in any big way (dispointing to see that) now I know it's not the freelancers fault, but the editor and graphic designers, and to think they've probably paid him or her or them about $2-3,000 dollars or more to do this is a fucking travesty!! , firstly Homebrew Heroes digital magazine, 107 pages of which 6 pages are adverts, 98 pages of actual content costs in dollars $5.40, Atari Gamer Magazine 75 pages, 5 adverts, 70 pages of actual content, costs $4.34 and was created and design for the homage and feel look and nostalgia of those games and platforms and were both created by me (one person) excluding the contributors, this fucking sickens me to the core, to see something like this with a real chance to compete with Retro Gamer Magazine, and received a kings ransom to do so, well they need not worry at all, this is a complete let down in both content (which can be found in most places for free) and design (Edge magazine inspired layout and design works best with technology magazines, not suggested retro gaming or vintage inspired products) furthermore printing fillers that can be read online for free is a real show of lack exclusive content gathering, so I prosume they did this to save time and money reaching its deadlines and or release dates?.

And using news which has been out for some time is a sign of struggle if you ask me? its on the net for free and anyone into this community will or already have either read it or heard about it, simply shocking. A bit of a joke for a paid publication that thinks it's all about Retro, even Games TM make the effort to change the look for their retro section, I can't see this going beyond 3 issues and that's been generous, I'm still trying to figure out who exactly this magazine is aimed at? Retro enthusiasts ? , next generation gamers with a small interest in vintage video games? , someone who likes games, but doesn't mind a mish mash of unbalanced amounts of gaming coverage or articles that are neither relevant to any community as a whole? I can't figure it?

And before the pencil breakers appear in defence , this is an objective opinion from a designers point of view based on experience in magazine concept and creation, in other words I know what I like and what should present on a pacific themed product :(


This is hilarious. You clearly don't know good design when you see it. It's clean and modern.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TL on March 02, 2014, 22:54:13 PM
He is a professional designer and a a very accomplished one, if you had seen any of his work you wouldn't have just made such a ridiculously mis-informed comment.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Banshee on March 02, 2014, 23:15:11 PM
link to aforementioned work please.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TL on March 02, 2014, 23:26:39 PM
Quote from: "Sparkler"
link to aforementioned work please.

Quite an impact for a new user to make with his first post. No introduction, not even filled out your profile, just straight into trolling a forum moderator.

Seen as you are clearly too lazy to do a search or even look at the PINNED threads in this very forum:

Atari Gamer (http://http)
Homebrew Heroes (http://http)
Atari ST Gamer (http://http)
Various Work (http://http)
Retro Bandit Clocks (http://https)

I could post more if you like but I will leave Greyfox himself to reply.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on March 02, 2014, 23:58:53 PM
Quote from: "Sparkler"
Quote from: "Greyfox"
I finally got my copy today..initially impressed with the design astentics but.....I've had a quick browse and find it as sterile as a clinic in a hospital, there is simply nothing original in it to what I was lead to believe and was promised if I'm been honest. I'm not saying it rubbish or bad, nothing like that, But I actually found myself skipping page after page with the phase of "meh" on my mind, and I rarely do that with anything, which is not a good thing especially when I've purchased something.

The lazy design, and it is lazy, that they've saved time and effort while continually using the same layouts and have not created anything unique or shown any real passion for the content they have written about in its presentation, anyone can do this, there is absolutely nothing that has been done in way of the design to make its key articles stand out from the rest other than the "Transistor" article in any big way (dispointing to see that) now I know it's not the freelancers fault, but the editor and graphic designers, and to think they've probably paid him or her or them about $2-3,000 dollars or more to do this is a fucking travesty!! , firstly Homebrew Heroes digital magazine, 107 pages of which 6 pages are adverts, 98 pages of actual content costs in dollars $5.40, Atari Gamer Magazine 75 pages, 5 adverts, 70 pages of actual content, costs $4.34 and was created and design for the homage and feel look and nostalgia of those games and platforms and were both created by me (one person) excluding the contributors, this fucking sickens me to the core, to see something like this with a real chance to compete with Retro Gamer Magazine, and received a kings ransom to do so, well they need not worry at all, this is a complete let down in both content (which can be found in most places for free) and design (Edge magazine inspired layout and design works best with technology magazines, not suggested retro gaming or vintage inspired products) furthermore printing fillers that can be read online for free is a real show of lack exclusive content gathering, so I prosume they did this to save time and money reaching its deadlines and or release dates?.

And using news which has been out for some time is a sign of struggle if you ask me? its on the net for free and anyone into this community will or already have either read it or heard about it, simply shocking. A bit of a joke for a paid publication that thinks it's all about Retro, even Games TM make the effort to change the look for their retro section, I can't see this going beyond 3 issues and that's been generous, I'm still trying to figure out who exactly this magazine is aimed at? Retro enthusiasts ? , next generation gamers with a small interest in vintage video games? , someone who likes games, but doesn't mind a mish mash of unbalanced amounts of gaming coverage or articles that are neither relevant to any community as a whole? I can't figure it?

And before the pencil breakers appear in defence , this is an objective opinion from a designers point of view based on experience in magazine concept and creation, in other words I know what I like and what should present on a pacific themed product :(


This is hilarious. You clearly don't know good design when you see it. It's clean and modern.

Okay,  firstly welcome to RVG :4:, I see my non bias judgement and technical breakdown of the "Retro" magazine has fuelled some prejudice and on your part arrogance from possible an uneducated perspective, my breakdown is based on experience of many years involved in all aspects of graphic design, motion graphics, corporate indenity etc, which has being published in Retro Gamer magazine, advertisements etc, so when I see a publication promising to deliver what I and many other expected to see in a Retro inspired publication only to be met with aww for all the wrong reasons, I was so disappointed to see that they took the modern sleek clean 2013-2014 stylistic I couldn't believe it, and I might want to add with been a graphic designer, we have to keep up with fresh ideas on design, retro is not different, but the difference is I believe a template that any one can purchase was possible used here, may I get you to look at this link please here (http://http), this I believe was possiblely used and reverse engineered to cater to there needs, change images etc, gets the magazine out there quickly with little hassles etc. hence why the magazine looks the way it looks, now I'll allow you to tell me that there is no similaries to the "Retro" magazine ? are there?

Secondly the motion graphics they so called created regarding their Kickstarter campaign was again its another template which can be purchased and used by anyone to promote a product, see here (http://http), so again does it still appear my so called "hilarious" and lack of insight to good design? I'll allow you the grace to bow out from your remarks firstly unfounded , unresearched and without any merit or to the fact that you actually don't know what your talking about. Again welcome to the forum if you even have genuine intentions of interacting with like minded members who share their love for retro as much as you have for the "Retro" magazine.

Thank you.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Banshee on March 03, 2014, 00:55:48 AM
The great thing about design is you are allowed to have different opinions. And my opinion is it's a nice looking rag. Same with Grey Fox's Atari magazine.

Thanks for letting me share my opinions...
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TL on March 05, 2014, 19:37:57 PM
So they have put out a preview of issue 2. (http://http)

Does it sound any better than the incredibly lacklustre first issue?

Yes and no, it's better but still very lacking.

There seems to be a bit more focus on retro but it's still far from living up to its name and it seems they have added a bit more structure. But let's look at the previewed contents for a minute:

Ed Fries interview - I interviewed him in the last issue of Retro Gamer.
Insane Game Collection - This has been done in RG.
Dreamcast Toe Jam & Earl - Also done in last months Retro Gamer.

It seems a bit silly to be repeating content from a rival magazine.

That said the Art Of Atari and Wrestlemaniacs articles interest me, but see how they turn out.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on March 05, 2014, 19:54:01 PM
yes, it does look a lot more this time around, I'll give it the benefit of the doubt for now. But regarding the previous stuff mentioned in retro Gamer magazine I see your point, but there is a hell of people who would not be exposed to RG or even know about it, and Retro coming out of their camp this could be the injection the USA needs to have it's own Retro magazine without mail order subscriptions, were folk can purchase it at their local news stand.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TL on March 05, 2014, 19:56:42 PM
Quote from: "Greyfox"
yes, it does look a lot more this time around, I'll give it the benefit of the doubt for now. But regarding the previous stuff mentioned in retro Gamer magazine I see your point, but there is a hell of people who would not be exposed to RG or even know about it, and Retro coming out of their camp this could be the injection the USA needs to have it's own Retro magazine without mail order subscriptions, were folk can purchase it at their local news stand.

Retro Gamer is sold all over the US in bookstores, a large portion of the monthly sales come from there now. I would bet it's sold in a hell of a lot more places than RETRO is.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Banshee on March 05, 2014, 20:06:01 PM
Looks like a let down issue to me. Where is the SG-1000 coverage!
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on March 05, 2014, 21:59:23 PM
Some of the coverage in this issue does look better and more retro-oriented. It also looks like they've modified the homebrew reviews section to separate retro and modern games, which would be a welcome change.  The Atari article should be interesting as well.  Insofar as the two features that are similar to the features in Retro Gamer, I think we need to wait to see how they implement them.  Even if they have aspects that are common it may be done in a different enough manner. 
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on March 06, 2014, 23:30:42 PM
I like to cover this time around, might pick this one up now and give my thoughts.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: ReadRetro on March 25, 2014, 19:12:01 PM
Issue #2 is now shipping to subscribers.  New subscribers will begin with issue #3, May/Jun 2014.  Subscribe here:  https://checkout.subscriptiongenius.com/ReadRetro.com/ (http://https)

Order back issues of #2 on GameGavel.com - http://www.gamegavel.com/item.cgi?show_item=0000916191 (http://http)

The premier issue is SOLD OUT!

Here is a preview of #2:  http://issuu.com/markkaminski/docs/retro_issue_2_issuu_preview (http://http)

Issue #3 will be a themed RPG Issue.

Thanks guys!   :67:
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TL on March 25, 2014, 19:16:57 PM
Quote from: "ReadRetro"
Issue #3 will be a themed RPG Issue.

 :37:

Sorry but I can't think of anything more boring.

ALSO: all of those links are broken.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on March 25, 2014, 19:49:18 PM
Thanks for the update.  I've fixed the links for you.  Does this mean the digital version of issue 2 is now available?
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on March 25, 2014, 19:50:10 PM
Here, I've found it http://issuu.com/markkaminski/docs/retro_issue_2_issuu_preview (http://http)

Had a quick browser, met by a few advertisement pages firstly, these should be banned from previews outright!!! , I understand the need to keep it all exclusive, these things just annoy me and are nothing more that filler in the preview..please don't put adverts in your future previews?...looks more or less the same as the first issue, nothing overly standing out to me other than the Atari Art feature for officious reasons :)

But a little bit scanty on the retro game reviews? Who reviews "Zombie ate my neighbourhood" in a tiny paragraph with a screenshot as small as a stamp..that alone is a travesty for such a great game to see it not get a page or two, like in Retro Gaming Monthy..shocking..

I await it release to cast more indept cover.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on March 25, 2014, 20:13:20 PM
Quote from: "ReadRetro"
Issue #2 is now shipping to subscribers.  New subscribers will begin with issue #3, May/Jun 2014.  Subscribe here:  https://checkout.subscriptiongenius.com/ReadRetro.com/ (http://https)

Order back issues of #2 on GameGavel.com - http://www.gamegavel.com/item.cgi?show_item=0000916191 (http://http)

The premier issue is SOLD OUT!

Here is a preview of #2:  http://issuu.com/markkaminski/docs/retro_issue_2_issuu_preview (http://http)

Issue #3 will be a themed RPG Issue.

Thanks guys!   :67:

Thanks for the update, TrekMD beat to the link fix lol..

As for the contents i am the same as Greyfox, perhaps showing less ads would be best so people can get a better feel for the issue.. Having said that i will always wish you the best of luck and i look forward to seeing more.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on March 31, 2014, 02:02:02 AM
I just got the notification that the digital version of issue 2 is available so I've just downloaded it.  :) 
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on March 31, 2014, 10:28:25 AM
good stuff make sure to give us your full superb insight to it for us :)
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on March 31, 2014, 20:29:46 PM
Look forward to hearing your thoughts... :113:
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on March 31, 2014, 21:40:26 PM
It'll take me a couple of days, guys, but I'll post my thoughts.  :)
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on April 11, 2014, 01:30:01 AM
OK, so I finally was able to finish reading the issue and I will say that I like this one better than the first issue.  Overall, this issue had more retro content and it felt more balanced but it still does feature quite a bit of modern content.  At least some of it involves retro games in modern consoles (like the NES Remix article).

What I enjoyed reading the most:

Though Game Gavel Digest still feels more like an ad, it was cool to see M.U.S.H.A. there as it was a game I was not familiar with. 

The Retrograde Reviews section still mixes retro and modern content and I really wish they'd reorganize it so the retro is separated from the modern stuff.  It would really make it better to read.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: ReadRetro on April 20, 2014, 16:59:03 PM
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Then, use promo code rvgukdigital and nab yourself a $10 (US$) digital subscription - normally $18.  This is a downloadble PDF version viewable on any device.

This is the last week to subscribe and start with our #3 RPG themed issue which will be available shortly.  If you subscribe any time after this week your subscription will begin with future issues.

This promo code will run indefinitely so spread the word.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on April 20, 2014, 17:47:34 PM
Sounds like a good deal, thanks for the though, hopefully some of our members will pick up the ball on this one :)
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: ReadRetro on April 20, 2014, 18:12:07 PM
Thanks!  We do appreciate the discussions, input and magazine reviews over here.  We do take all the feedback we get from all sources and try to use it to help us give readers what they want.  We are hoping that a $10 intro offer on the digital will eventually turn into international print subscriptions :)
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on April 20, 2014, 18:14:28 PM
I'm sure they will, wish you the best of luck with this promotional campaign :)
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on April 20, 2014, 21:53:43 PM
Can I pay via PayPal. Don't like using my card direct.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: ReadRetro on April 30, 2014, 23:16:59 PM
Time is flying!  Already publishing our third issue of RETRO!  Are you a subscriber yet?  Also, some big news as RETRO has been approved by Barnes and Noble for national distribution here in the USA.  We hope to have this all set up by the release of our 4th issue in July!


Check out our issue #3 preview and also score some great print or digital subscription discounts!  Come join us!


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Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on May 01, 2014, 00:10:19 AM
With no disrespect intended this issue's concept has to be one worse ideas for a"Retro" issue solely based on Role Playing Games? What if like myself and I'm sure many others have absolutely no interest in RPG's? at least with other multi-format magazine you can simply skip it to other content that may interest you?, but this is not the case here?.

Understandably I can appreciate that you trying new ideas and new types of ideas in getting enticements to your product, but this issue was better in theory than in practice, if I'd been a subscriber and received this "RPG" only issue in my inbox and been on to enquiries asking for my money back for this issue and I'd of been highly annoyed at the magazine inconsideration for those whom have no interest in the subject or genre. This is incredible bad foresight for your readership and you as a magazine. This issue did not cater for its readers.

The only thing in this issue that borders outside the what should be a collectors edition rather than an actual magazine issue is the "Retro Recollection" and one of those is about RPG's too. All in all Laird's previous comment of "Sorry but I can't think of anything more boring." I have to agree with this but not from an non-interested in the subject matter perpective, but its simply boring once you seen one, you've seen them all, wizardry , dungeon master etc..Ultima series , yep about as interesting of watching paint dry. Poor foresight, hopefully issue 4 with return to reality.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TL on May 01, 2014, 14:52:33 PM
Ok, I had some time to read the new issue today and I am going to leave some feedback. Although I am not sure there is any point as it is never answered/replied to.

The second issue does seem to be marginally better than the first one. I liked the Atari art article and the wrestling games article was decent too, even if it did have quite a few notable omissions. The Ed Fries interview was also very good although having interviewed himself for Retro Gamer magazine a few months back it didn't tell me anything new.

Bad points now - it still seems like a large portion of the mag is either adverts or adverts disguised as articles, I know you have to pay the bills but there is nothing worse than articles like that. There is also still no balance whatsoever and a huge portion of the magazine is still dedicated to modern gaming. Really it's a total con calling the magazine Retro when so much of it is about modern gaming. Probably worst of all though is the redundant and totally out of date news section that seems to feature news that happened months ago now, not even semi-recent. We have the internet for news like this and it just wastes page space.

I certainly won't be getting the next issue, sounds as dull as ditchwater.
Title: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: DZ-Jay on May 01, 2014, 16:54:32 PM
I arrived late to this thread, so forgive me if my points seem redundant.

I subscribed to the RETRO magazine last year and eagerly awaited it.  Having received now two issues I must say, I am very disappointed.

First, as The Laird said, it is very low on the "retro" scale.

Second, I find that it has a significant number of advertisements--much more than I was expecting.  Moreover, sometimes it seems that some of the features are just more advertisements for the sponsors.

Mostly, I find it to be very superficial.  The topics of the articles are interesting enough, but the content seems to be fluff, designed to fit within one or two page halves (the images taking much of the room).

There is no single in-depth feature, it is all just a bunch of short pieces, even the "main" one mentioned on the cover.

As it stands, I won't be renewing my subscription. I am even expecting some of my next issues to go unread.

With all the hype and fanfare, I expected much more.  It seems like any other magazine off the supermarket checkout counter--except printed on heavier and higher quality stock.

    dZ.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on May 01, 2014, 17:34:59 PM
wow! :o that good ehh?, do they not have a forum for such complaints or a official feedback on the magazine as it seem there is more actual concerns on feedback here rather than anywhere else I've seen it posted and its not just somebody knocking it for no good reason, its being said more than once, so there is issues there.

look all new magazines have teeing problems but when its still going after 3 issues with no real improvement in article content or improvements on each new issue, then this falls into my prediction I made a few pages back., I think it's a case of the writers doing what they want and publishers letting them away with it, nothing but page fillers etc..and all good friends approach, well this will be the downfall of this Magazine unless someone comes in and cracks a fucking whip.

If any of them who represent the magazine want to have their say, they are welcome to say it here and have honest feedback given.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on May 01, 2014, 18:08:46 PM
Well, it looks like there are several of us who feel the same way.  I have to honestly say that I was disappointed with the preview for issue 3.  An entire issue dedicated to RPG's is not something I look forward to. 
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Shadowrunner on May 01, 2014, 19:25:26 PM
I love RPG's so I'm really looking forward to issue 3  :113:
As for issue 2, I just received my print copy last week and haven't even read through it all yet. My initial impression though was that it flowed a lot better than the first issue, which was my main complaint. I can understand other peoples complaints, but for me I don't think it's that bad.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TL on May 01, 2014, 23:42:50 PM
Thank you for taking the time to come here and speak to us and for your detailed reply  :16:
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on May 01, 2014, 23:46:07 PM
Send him an email and straighten it out for them :113:
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on May 01, 2014, 23:46:46 PM
Jokeontheworld, I want to also thank you for taking the time answer to our comments here.  Our goal is to give you constructive feedback and it is great you are paying attention to feedback provided by readers.  I hope we get to hear from you as things move forward.  :)
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TL on May 02, 2014, 00:06:09 AM
Quote from: "Jokeontheworld"
Now that I got my account approved, you can count on it!

I actually approved your account myself back in February, did you have a problem with it?

I will contact you in due course if you want to speak more, my email is kierenhawken@retrovideogamer.co.uk
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on May 02, 2014, 10:32:50 AM
Thanks for dropping in and your refreshing replies are much appreciated.

I have some post back if I can pay via PayPal as this gives my more piece of mind when buying online.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on July 02, 2014, 19:47:54 PM
Next issue is inbound, below is all the details.

(http://readretro.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/issue4cover1.png)

RETROs Top 20 Platformers
Whether you spent your days stomping Koopas in Super Mario Bros. or racing after rings in Sonic the Hedgehog, few can forget the days when platformers ruled the gaming roost. And when it comes to fans in early print media, few carried the torch for these iconic adventures like GameFan Magazines Dave Halverson, who was kind enough to put together a list of his favorite old-school platformers in an in-depth celebration of the heroes, villains, and the mysterious groundskeepers who thought it was a good idea to put those f$#%ing spikes all over the place. As an added bonus, this months cover was carefully crafted by renowned vector artist Orlando Arocena, and as you can see above, it should look mighty nice on your controller slaberrcoffee table.

So What Else Is In The Issue?
Continuing last months trend of spotlighting a classic genre, were releasing our inner butt-bouncing fanboy in issue #4 with a host of killer pieces on some of our favorite platforming titles.

Features:
Industry Icon(s) Veteran developers Garry Kitchen and David Crane give us some insight on their early days as developers, discuss their favorite platformers, and even dish a few exclusive images of classic cover and manual art that just missed the final cut.
Bumbling Bonk Robert Workman takes a look on the recent ill-fated comeback of the former Tubrografx superstar.
Primal Soup Jeremy Parish examines the under-appreciated power of pixel art and its modern gaming resurgence.
RETROspective: Jumping Flash 2 Alexandra Hall dons her robotic bunny suit and dishes on why Sonys polygonal platformer still makes her heart hop.
RETROspective: Snatcher James Paton grants a Kickstarter wish and dives in to this lesser-know (but no-less revered) Kojima classic.

RETRO Recollection:
Insane Game Collection From last issues look at one of the worlds largest arcade and pinball collections to one of gamings most potent portable collections courtesy of The Handheld Museums Rik Morgan.
Collect-a-Thon Chris Kohler follows up lasts month dive into Sega territory with a look at the key keepers in the Turbografx-16 library.
Chasing Mario Weve all played a Mario game or three in our lives, but Chris points out that finding and owning all of them is tougher than youd think.
RETRO Rarities Jeremy Parish shows hes got the ledge-leaping love with a look back at Little Sampson.

RETROactive:
Coin-Op Story Indie dev Pascal Cammisotto gives us details on his upcoming Metroidvania marvel that pays homage to the glory days of arcade gaming.
Chasm Discord Games James Petruzzi discusses player choice, atmosphere and the challenges of crafting a modern day retro title.
The Way Developer Blaise Sanecki talks about the influences and aesthetic goals that are fueling his teams upcoming pixel-laden adventure.
Fenix Rage Green Lavas Eduardo Ramrez talks difficulty, cookies, and building on a budget.

RETROgrade:
Old-School We leap back into Space Panic, Monty on the Run, Kid Niki and many more.
New-School Not to be out-classed by their retro rivals, Guacamelee, Monochroma, Stick It To the Man and a host of others get a glimpse.

RETRO Rants:
Seanbaby talks smack about lame mascots, Pat Contri dives into his favorite obscure platformers, and Kevin Baird reflects on his times as a tike in the arcade badlands.

And of course, well respond to reader inquiries, dish on the latest pinball and arcade news, and deliver yet another installment of Scott Johnsons Experience Points.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on July 02, 2014, 19:49:38 PM
Cool, I like the cover on this issue.  Looking forward to it. 
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TL on July 02, 2014, 23:51:14 PM
2 bad issues in a row for me, I hate RPGs just as much as I hate platformers.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on July 03, 2014, 14:06:04 PM
I don't think the RPG issue going ahead this time around, maybe too many people had issues and they decided to break it up over the next set of issues due in the future, as its been awhile since the next one and suspect this is what has happened, as in agreement with you, RPG issue would of been a death sentence to those who hate or don't play RPG's. The cover is very nice this issue, so lets hope its as good inside as the outside :)
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TL on July 03, 2014, 14:31:12 PM
Quote from: "Greyfox"
I don't think the RPG issue going ahead this time around, maybe too many people had issues and they decided to break it up over the next set of issues due in the future, as its been awhile since the next one and suspect this is what has happened, as in agreement with you, RPG issue would of been a death sentence to those who hate or don't play RPG's. The cover is very nice this issue, so lets hope its as good inside as the outside :)

The RPG issue is already out, has been for a couple of weeks, I have already read it.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on July 03, 2014, 14:42:41 PM
Do you get the physical or PDF version Laird? 
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on July 03, 2014, 15:34:21 PM
opps, so this is issue 4 then?

I was wondering why I hadn't seen or heard anything about it, it must of been that good then?
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on July 03, 2014, 15:43:27 PM
You probably haven't heard much because several of us said we weren't too much into issue 3 because it was focused on RPG's.  So, it sort of came and went for many of us for that very reason.  There are several posts in this thread about it and Jokeontheworld, who is on the editorial team for the magazine, added some comments about the magazine in general and the third issue as well. 
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TL on July 03, 2014, 16:35:09 PM
Quote from: "TrekMD"
You probably haven't heard much because several of us said we weren't too much into issue 3 because it was focused on RPG's.  So, it sort of came and went for many of us for that very reason.  There are several posts in this thread about it and Jokeontheworld, who is on the editorial team for the magazine, added some comments about the magazine in general and the third issue as well.

Exactly, not only was it a whole issue devoted to RPGs but also had a very heavy emphasis on modern games, even more so than previous issues. The cover was once again portraying a modern game too and I still find the use of modern games on the cover of a magazine called Retro absolutely baffling.

[member=1]zapiy[/member] - I get the PDF as I haven't seen anything yet that makes me want to buy a physical copy.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on July 16, 2014, 01:45:44 AM
I'm wondering why they keep changing the style of the main logo , I personally don't like this, it should remain its original state, but it seems to be taking a lift here in content, are they still watermarking the hell out their digital versions? :21:
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on July 16, 2014, 02:09:46 AM
Quote from: "Greyfox"
I'm wondering why they keep changing the style of the main logo , I personally don't like this, it should remain its original state, but it seems to be taking a lift here in content, are they still watermarking the hell out their digital versions? :21:
Yes, the watermarks are still there.  I wish they were positioned so they would not overlap with the text of the articles.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Shadowrunner on October 09, 2014, 19:29:19 PM
I received an update a few days ago from the original Kickstarter campaign of this magazine. Most of it was just about an early bird special for renewing your subscription for year two.

They did mention something else though that I thought was interesting, they are going to be launching another kickstarter later this month for that 2nd year of the magazine. Seems a little odd to go that route again but I guess we will see. I haven't decided yet if I'm going to renew or not. My main concern is if I choose to renew now and take advantage of the price discount, am I missing out on any KS exclusive extras that I would get if I waited and backed it again?

[member=5080]ReadRetro[/member]  if you see this, can you explain how this is going to work, and what the 2nd KS campaign is for?
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on October 09, 2014, 21:30:39 PM
A second Kickstarter?  That's interesting.  I'd be interested in hearing more about it too and how it is going to work.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on October 10, 2014, 07:37:36 AM
Same as above. Has it been a year already then?
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on October 10, 2014, 12:22:22 PM
I understand that they've created a cool little magazine here with the production values, but when they did the first Kick-starter did they not account for cost and expenses to allow them to evolve for the second year? Is this down to incredible bad management of the funds and profits on the magazine? surely they could gauge the long term profits and expenses to take to produce the magazine for it's second year?

I think it's abuse of the privilege to even suggest a kick-starter for the second year, as I'm sure people will be thinking the same thing I am regarding were the money went to prevent the magazine from continuing without the need for a second kick-starter?. The only thing I can think of is the first Year wasn't as successful in sales hopes and marketing maybe?. The content was fine 95% of the time, so what happened to it resorting to a second kickstarter? they need to put together some sort of press statement to justify them asking people for more money for a product that should have done it's sale projections for the next 4-5 years before doing this.

I'm not flaming the idea here, I just don't understand, they must of made a profit, they had to off made something, and it that's not the case, then running a second kick-starter looks to me that this could become a regular thing with "Retro" the following year and the year after that. They'd also want to look into create a more interactive digital version of the magazine too, a standard PDF is really becoming a thing of the past and this goes for all of us, not just them. I wish them every success with the second kick-starter, but seem like jumping on the band wagon here to curb costs to themselves and the magazines finances.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on October 12, 2014, 21:30:33 PM
You make valid points that many people will be thinking, would be good if [member=5080]ReadRetro[/member] or [member=5131]Jokeontheworld[/member] could fill us in?
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: ReadRetro on October 15, 2014, 23:21:45 PM
Quote from: "zapiy"
You make valid points that many people will be thinking, would be good if [member=5080]ReadRetro[/member] or [member=5131]Jokeontheworld[/member] could fill us in?

Hey guys,

Just wanted to come in here and address.  Since we have continued to sell subscriptions all year long, it should be obvious we have already committed to year two regardless of the outcome of this next Kickstarter campaign.  We are using this campaign to fund improvements like adding more pages, adding more illustrators and artists, adding surprise magazine, custom art pull-out inserts, adding more favorite gaming writers and personalities, expanding our retail circulation through stores like Barnes and Noble and Hastings Entertainment, etc.

We wanted to give our original backers an opportunity to buy in at the same price as they paid in the original Kickstarter, even though our subscription rate will go up with these added improvements.  Other magazines, like Nintendo Force have also run second year Kickstarter campaigns so this is not something out of the ordinary.  Also, Kickstarter's have kind of become a marketing tool now as well -- as these tend to get additional press.  So it just makes sense to continue to use Kickstarter in this fashion.

Look for our year two Kickstarter campaign to launch this weekend from the Portland Retrogaming Expo.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on October 15, 2014, 23:40:18 PM
Cool, thanks for explaining. 
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on October 16, 2014, 01:25:34 AM
many thanks for explaining this and clearing up the queries now, I fully understand the marketing strategies behind it and hope it is a successful kickstarter and second year for Retro magazine.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Shadowrunner on October 16, 2014, 03:37:23 AM
Nice to hear from you Read. Looks like I need to renew my subscription before Friday to get the deal :)
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on October 16, 2014, 21:47:35 PM
Quote from: "ReadRetro"
Quote from: "zapiy"
You make valid points that many people will be thinking, would be good if [member=5080]ReadRetro[/member] or [member=5131]Jokeontheworld[/member] could fill us in?

Hey guys,

Just wanted to come in here and address.  Since we have continued to sell subscriptions all year long, it should be obvious we have already committed to year two regardless of the outcome of this next Kickstarter campaign.  We are using this campaign to fund improvements like adding more pages, adding more illustrators and artists, adding surprise magazine, custom art pull-out inserts, adding more favorite gaming writers and personalities, expanding our retail circulation through stores like Barnes and Noble and Hastings Entertainment, etc.

We wanted to give our original backers an opportunity to buy in at the same price as they paid in the original Kickstarter, even though our subscription rate will go up with these added improvements.  Other magazines, like Nintendo Force have also run second year Kickstarter campaigns so this is not something out of the ordinary.  Also, Kickstarter's have kind of become a marketing tool now as well -- as these tend to get additional press.  So it just makes sense to continue to use Kickstarter in this fashion.

Look for our year two Kickstarter campaign to launch this weekend from the Portland Retrogaming Expo.

Thanks for popping on and clearing that up Mike.. All makes sense and no one is forced to do either...
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Simon_G on October 18, 2014, 08:22:20 AM
I purchased a sub and the four released digital back issues a few days ago and paid by card but did not get access to the back issues :(

EDIT - Just checked and have access to them now :)
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on October 19, 2014, 15:10:45 PM
The Kikckstarter for the second year is up and running:  RETRO Video Game Magazine Year Two (http://https).
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on October 19, 2014, 17:50:03 PM
Slick video. I wish them every success :)
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: ReadRetro on October 20, 2014, 22:03:56 PM
Thanks guys!
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on October 20, 2014, 23:04:26 PM
Your welcome  :113:
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on November 14, 2014, 23:22:08 PM
The latest KS looks to be successful.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on January 05, 2015, 01:48:03 AM
Well, I finally had a chance to sit and read issue 5.  One of the nicest reads was the article that focused on the Flashback systems for the Atari 2600, Intellivision, and ColecoVision systems.  The article discusses the original console wars and h as sidebar interviews with Keith Robinson (Intellivision Productions) and Mark Thomann (River West Brands, owner of Coleco).  Both of those are rather short but they are still nice.  There's a nice review of all the Flashbacks along with a listing of games for each one. 

The other cool article is the one that talks about collecting Castlevania, which spans from retro to modern!

I'm hoping that there is more retro content and interviews with folks like Keith and Mark on the second year of the magazine, though.  I'm also hoping they watermark the magazine PDF in some other spot!  Having a watermark within the text is quite annoying!
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on January 05, 2015, 02:19:53 AM
Ohh dear that old gremlin still hanging about? , sounds like a good issue :)
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: ReadRetro on January 06, 2015, 23:00:57 PM
Quote from: "Greyfox"
Ohh dear that old gremlin still hanging about? , sounds like a good issue :)

We are still working hard to make everyone happy.  It is rather difficult in 68 pages, but now we are at 76 for issue 7 I think that will help.  We have some great stuff coming from Warren Davis and SCORPIA :)  Oh, we are also bringing on Graeme Mason for some UK perspective. 
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on January 07, 2015, 00:24:54 AM
Cool to see thee Grame is joining!  The watermark was still there on Issue 5 or, least, my issue 5.  If you're permanently removing it, that's great.  Thanks!
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on January 27, 2015, 20:34:15 PM
How's things looking guys?


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Banshee on June 12, 2015, 18:43:20 PM
Has anyone checked out the new preview of RETRO?

http://issuu.com/readretro/docs/retro_issue__8_digital_preview/7?e=14967325/13443298 (http://http)

The look and content changed pretty drastically.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on June 12, 2015, 19:08:35 PM
Looks a lot better actually. :113:
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Banshee on June 12, 2015, 19:30:27 PM
Looks totally generic now compared to this one:
http://issuu.com/readretro/docs/retro_issue__7_digital_preview (http://http)
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on June 12, 2015, 20:06:43 PM
It does look more generic but I think I like it better.  At least, the classic/retro content (at least the reviews) seems to have a larger spotlight.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Banshee on August 29, 2016, 00:16:05 AM
Looks like this thing is out of money. They are putting out a Mike Kennedy interview only issue, which no one has any interest in reading.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on August 29, 2016, 08:30:29 AM
Shame if that's correct, i guess the retro bubble has burst (a little).
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: AmigaJay on August 29, 2016, 08:31:50 AM
No surprise no one wants to fund a fraudulent person anymore to be blunt about it!
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on August 29, 2016, 08:45:41 AM
He certainly is feeling the effects of some silly decisions.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on August 29, 2016, 11:54:43 AM
I know the Kickstarter was very important for this to get started and for the second year.  I wonder how many subscriptions it got outside of Kickstarter.  If it was mostly funded by Kickstarter money then I can see it running out of steam. 
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Shadowrunner on August 29, 2016, 14:59:40 PM
Yeah, not surprising. I don't see anyone buying an interview issue!
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on August 02, 2017, 00:14:02 AM
This thread has not see any activity in a long time but there is an update that I wanted to post that I received on email.  The magazine is under new management...


Hello! From the New Ownership Team!

Hello!

This is Eli Galindo, and I just wanted to reach out to the full list of subscribers, backers, members, etc of the Magazine to give you a quick update of what is happening.

First off, we are slowly building relationships with new and previous writers. As I have told every one of them, the new RETRO Magazine will be very open to any professional writer that wants to come in and pitch articles of topics that they are passionate about (within the Retro Gaming spectrum). I hope that this way it will not feel like a shore, or topics will not be forced to writers and they would enjoy writing for the Magazine.

Second, the main concern of buying the magazine assets was all the people that were left hanging with pending subscriptions or issues when the business went burst. So we have been working on ways and coming up with ideas to do right by them. We've been talking with about 300 subscribers that have 1 issue pending to take care first, then we will move up to about 750 subscribers that have 2 or more issues left. We got a pallet full of back issues that some of these subscribers don't have so we'll be offering these plus other goodies.

Once all or most of the pending subscribers are taken care of, the Website and may be a patreon campaign will be open; here we will only charge you when a new issue is ready to print (digital version 100% ready) this way we do not commit the mistakes of the past. We would need a minimum of 1000 subs to make a physical print run.

We will re-launch the campaign with issue 13th which will be the last themed issue there will ever be due that we have to honor some dealings with some third parties. After this issue is available (digital only) we will stop doing themed issues, increase the amount of content pages to 100+ and reduce the magazine issues from quarterly to bi-yearly. This will ensure the magazine has the best content under the Retro Gaming spectrum and not so much filler content.

At the moment I am a bit busy finishing up the Iron Commando IndieGogo campaign and working on the new Wisdom Tree Kickstarter (Shameless plug, check it out if you are interested in new NES games or Sega Genesis games!). But we'll be shipping out all the pending subs issues in the next few weeks and working on the Issue 13th to have a release date of the last week of October.

Is you have any comments or questions, please let me know, I try to answer emails as soon as possible.

Kind regards,
The New RETRO Magazine Team
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on August 03, 2017, 12:02:39 PM
Interesting update, thanks fella..

Look forward to where this goes.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on August 03, 2017, 12:17:05 PM
That's what I told them.  I'm curious to see where he takes this. 
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on August 03, 2017, 12:29:58 PM
So i take it PIKO have full control of this mag?
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on August 03, 2017, 12:33:16 PM
Apparently only Eli. Yes, he is from PIKO but looks like he's the one in charge of the magazine as well as the auction site (Game Gavel).  It has actually stirred some controversy.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on August 03, 2017, 12:34:58 PM
Where mate?
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on August 03, 2017, 12:37:35 PM
When he presented this at AA there was some discussion because some folks have a "lifetime" membership as sellers on Game Gavel and they expect that to be honored.  It became a heated issue.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Greyfox on August 03, 2017, 17:23:48 PM
Because of the damage and rep done to the magazine from the previous owner, you can and have to take into consideration of the customer that it could go the same route, and also what experience is here in regards to running an auction site or a fully fledged commercial magazine?  Hiring freelancers and them making sure they'll be paid, shipping logistics, printing logistics, proof readers and finishing touches, requires a team of about 8-10 people working on this for days and weeks. I read a few issues, found some of it great and a large majority of it pants, in saying that a certain person we all know has written for it after countless times saying he'd never write for a bias American retro gaming magazine lol..what a bullshitter..HaHa. But I'm thinking have gaming magazine reached their perk? With a majority of company profiles and previous games covered and even lost games and other things covered now, where can new information be recovered from that we haven't already read or seen? It's getting very hard these days to come up with fresh content you can't obtain from the net?
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on August 03, 2017, 20:04:34 PM
It seems their plan is to just do a digital version twice a year.  It will only see print if enough people are interested and preorder the printed version.  I suppose time will tell. 
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: zapiy on August 04, 2017, 13:15:53 PM
I wish them luck, we shall see i guess.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Shadowrunner on August 04, 2017, 17:10:15 PM
Yeah, I wish them good luck too but I think it might be too little too late for the magazine and for Game Gavel.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on October 31, 2017, 23:25:50 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/JrB9Gva.png)

Issue 13 has been released!  Remember this is the first issue under the new administration.  I got the issue already as a free issue.  I'll report once I read it.

You can look for it here:  RETRO Magazine Issue #13 Digital (http://readretro.com/store/#!/RETRO-Magazine-Issue-13-Digital/p/95307828/category=0).

If you are interested in Physical format for this issue. We have launched a Patreon campaing for it, and for future physical issues. As soon as we hit the goal Issue 13th will go to the print shop. Yearly subscription will be only $8.50 and will entitle you to 2 issues a year; one targeted to be delivered during the Summer, and one during Holiday season.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: Shadowrunner on October 31, 2017, 23:38:33 PM
I got the email but I haven't downloaded it yet. I am interested in seeing the new look.
Title: Re: RETRO: The Multi-Format, Throw-Back Video Game Magazine
Post by: TrekMD on October 31, 2017, 23:45:54 PM
I haven't read it yet but did a quick flip through.  I like it!  It is definitely a retro magazine now.