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Title: Let's Compare - Doom
Post by: TL on September 07, 2012, 23:38:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V05oOH9xOIc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V05oOH9xOIc)
Title: Re: Let's Compare - Doom
Post by: Shadowrunner on September 08, 2012, 01:59:48 AM
Cool video. Never seen some of those versions before.
Doom is one of my favourite games, still play it fairly often.
Title: Re: Let's Compare - Doom
Post by: TL on September 08, 2012, 02:05:30 AM
Quote from: "Shadowrunner"
Cool video. Never seen some of those versions before.
Doom is one of my favourite games, still play it fairly often.

I love the Jaguar version, I can't tell you how many hours I spent playing that game when I bought it back in the day.
Title: Re: Let's Compare - Doom
Post by: onthinice on September 08, 2012, 05:17:43 AM
I have a few of those versions. Even have some old dos shareware disks. Like Barney the Purple Dinosaur Doom.
Title: Re: Let's Compare - Doom
Post by: AmigaJay on September 08, 2012, 07:38:19 AM
God even the 32x version is smoother than the 3do version, just shows how bad the dev team were for the 3do!
Trouble is running on the PC now obviously runs at a million fps, but back then you needed a £2000 PC to run anywhere near those shown frame rates....also they say the PS1 version is the same, actually it has better lighting than the PC version, it's also my favourite version, I used to play 2 player link up with back to back tvs In my bedroom using only 1 disc!

Still impressed with the gba versions.
Title: Re: Let's Compare - Doom
Post by: TL on September 13, 2012, 18:19:29 PM
A couple of homebrew versions of Doom:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5HDYNktK6g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5HDYNktK6g)
Atari Falcon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v7cFGneuaw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v7cFGneuaw)
Sinclair Spectrum 128k
Title: Re: Let's Compare - Doom
Post by: DreamcastRIP on September 15, 2012, 03:41:51 AM
I believe the NTSC-J release of Doom (Saturn) featured a marginally faster/smoother frame rate than what was released in the West on said SEGA console.

(I'm not watching that 25 minute vid to verify if this is mentioned!)
Title: Re: Let's Compare - Doom
Post by: TL on September 20, 2012, 23:00:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKLHcr1u5fY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKLHcr1u5fY)
Title: Re: Let's Compare - Doom
Post by: TrekMD on September 21, 2012, 02:08:52 AM
Interesting how this video comparison starts off.  They both look pretty good. 
Title: Re: Let's Compare - Doom
Post by: Shadowrunner on September 21, 2012, 02:13:42 AM
Cool video but hard to watch at times, feeling dizzy. Lol
Title: Re: Let's Compare - Doom
Post by: nakamura on September 24, 2012, 20:37:36 PM
Love the PS1 version of Doom the most overall but to be honest I love the game that much I would play just about any version.
Title: Re: Let's Compare - Doom
Post by: TL on October 08, 2012, 17:38:29 PM
I just came across this . . . . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgRffJtb ... ure=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgRffJtbYeM&feature=relmfu)
Title: Re: Let's Compare - Doom
Post by: Shadowrunner on October 08, 2012, 22:11:59 PM
Wow, and I thought the SNES version looked bad!
Title: Re: Let's Compare - Doom
Post by: dcultrapro on October 09, 2012, 09:54:10 AM
I played the Saturn version again last night. I know Laird will kill me for saying this but I still prefer the Saturn version to the jag hands down. Least of all for the fact that you can see it in full screen but its actually got nice ambient sounds that lend real atmosphere... I know Jaguar purists say its better without but I think playing it without is pretty jarring and ruins the experience. but then I grew up used to the Saturn version with the music... please don't hate me lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPJ9fcVTaGg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPJ9fcVTaGg)

just watched that compare vid, it doesn't have the shit music that the 3D0 and PC engine ones do and its graphics look relatively good by comparison to all of them, except the obvious doom 3 lol
Title: Re: Let's Compare - Doom
Post by: TL on October 09, 2012, 11:45:20 AM
Quote from: "dcultrapro"
I played the Saturn version again last night. I know Laird will kill me for saying this but I still prefer the Saturn version to the jag hands down. Least of all for the fact that you can see it in full screen but its actually got nice ambient sounds that lend real atmosphere... I know Jaguar purists say its better without but I think playing it without is pretty jarring and ruins the experience. but then I grew up used to the Saturn version with the music... please don't hate me lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPJ9fcVTaGg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPJ9fcVTaGg)

just watched that compare vid, it doesn't have the shit music that the 3D0 and PC engine ones do and its graphics look relatively good by comparison to all of them, except the obvious doom 3 lol

You are completely mental!  :P
Title: Re: Let's Compare - Doom
Post by: dcultrapro on October 09, 2012, 12:15:40 PM
I've never noticed any serious frame problems on the Saturn version tbh, maybe I'm getting confused with the Jaguar version of Doom in relation to the screen area but I thought I could remember the Jag version had a massive box around the screen much like when you zoom out to outside the hover craft in hover strike.... anyway I apologise if I'm remembering that part incorrectly. either way its just the way I remember the game, when I was 16 playing Doom on the Saturn was normal for me, I didn't notice frame rate problems, I didn't notice any slow down at all... playing it last night I could see that its not as fast as it could be but for me it certainly isn't unplayable as thats what I was used to. I can imagine people used to the 64 bit versions having issues but is not bad to the point of "unplayable"
Title: Re: Let's Compare - Doom
Post by: TL on October 09, 2012, 12:19:07 PM
Quote from: "dcultrapro"
I've never noticed any serious frame problems on the Saturn version tbh, maybe I'm getting confused with the Jaguar version of Doom in relation to the screen area but I thought I could remember the Jag version had a massive box around the screen much like when you zoom out to outside the hover craft in hover strike.... anyway I apologise if I'm remembering that part incorrectly. either way its just the way I remember the game, when I was 16 playing Doom on the Saturn was normal for me, I didn't notice frame rate problems, I didn't notice any slow down at all... playing it last night I could see that its not as fast as it could be but for me it certainly isn't unplayable as thats what I was used to. I can imagine people used to the 64 bit versions having issues but is not bad to the point of "unplayable"

Watch the video's in this thread, its the Saturn version that has a border - the Jag version is full screen.

I might do a comparisson video actually . . . .
Title: Re: Let's Compare - Doom
Post by: dcultrapro on October 09, 2012, 12:45:03 PM
I must admit i didn't notice a border, probably wrong though. you get what I'm saying though about the fact that I was used to the Saturn one, I didn't play another version of Doom for YEARS after that and other versions just seemed strange
Title: Re: Let's Compare - Doom
Post by: Anonymous on October 18, 2012, 14:54:33 PM
the pc version will always be my fave for it was highly moddable and the best  version
Title: Re: Let's Compare - Doom
Post by: TL on November 10, 2012, 19:33:26 PM
I just remembered THIS (http://http) brilliant hoax!

(http://www.oocities.org/timessquare/arcade/8691/vcsad.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's Compare - Doom
Post by: Rogue Trooper on November 10, 2012, 22:42:08 PM
Ahh DOOM, probably THE most played Jaguar game i had at the time (and 4 of my friends bought Jag's just to play Doom-None of us wanted the cost or hassle of a PC).Bloody superb conversion and personally felt was a better game for not having the (MIDI?) tracks from PC.

Put even more time in on PS version though, even tried link up mode.The music there, really added to the feeling of dread (and who ever came up with the baby wailing track...twisted genius).

Rage did European (and US i assume) Saturn Doom.Straight port of PS version, even the passwords worked.Chap who did conversion was interviewd in Gamestm, years back, he said his bosses basically told him, just port it over best you ca.Jap.version much better and done by different coders.

Never went much on Doom 2 mind-Media loved it, but to me? felt like exp.pack and not full blown sequel i'd hoped for.
Title: Re: Let's Compare - Doom
Post by: Rogue Trooper on November 10, 2012, 22:47:36 PM
32X version, i believe was a rush job, talk of Sega 'camped outside' developers to get game done in time for release, but it did'nt do the hardware any favours.For something with 2X 32 Bit Risc chips to be running game in a window, with weapons and levels missing (if memory serves) it just looked like a lesser version.

Poor old 3DO owners were left waiting and not all good things come to those who wait, the image of shotgun muzzle blast staying on screen after gun firing animation had finished was shocking.

Snes ver.was technically impressive, but used SFX chip gubbins i think, GBA version, based on Jaguar code and thus very smart indeed.
Title: Re: Let's Compare - Doom
Post by: TrekMD on November 11, 2012, 04:18:23 AM
Quote from: "The Laird"
I just remembered THIS (http://http) brilliant hoax!

(http://www.oocities.org/timessquare/arcade/8691/vcsad.jpg)

I like that hoax!† Looks fantastic!† LOL
Title: Re: Let's Compare - Doom
Post by: zapiy on November 11, 2012, 18:17:23 PM
Thats classic lol..
Title: Let's Compare - Doom
Post by: DZ-Jay on November 13, 2012, 17:55:29 PM
Also, this one (check out the release date):

http://spatula-city.org/~im14u2c/intv/doom/ (http://spatula-city.org/~im14u2c/intv/doom/)
Title: Re: Let's Compare - Doom
Post by: TrekMD on November 13, 2012, 17:58:05 PM
Quote from: "DZ-Jay"
Also, this one (check out the release date):

http://spatula-city.org/~im14u2c/intv/doom/ (http://spatula-city.org/~im14u2c/intv/doom/)

Another fake classic!  LOL